deca on its own

[johnq]

can u run deca on its own? and for as little as 8 weeks? or do you need a test with it? would you see results from deca after 8 weeks? with a good diet and training.

[Titleist]

You can run anything however long you want.

Deca will shut down your natural test production almost immediately, causing all sorts of problems in the bedroom. Libido goes down the shitter and getting a hard-on is a chore. Unless you aren't getting any ass, I would suggest you run at least a TRT dose of test alongside your Deca.

The minimum I would run Deca is 10 weeks.

[johnq]

yeah baby

[longhorn814]

ill stay away frrom the deca i think. misses wants to try for a baby the start of next year, any other cycles u would suggest for lean muscle gains.

what is your cycle history and stats?

[Amorphic]

Originally Posted by johnq
ill stay away frrom the deca i think. misses wants to try for a baby the start of next year, any other cycles u would suggest for lean muscle gains.

Keep in mind nearly all aas will shut down your natty test production, it isnt limited to deca. Anavar is bascally the only aas that is mild enough on your hpta to not fully inhibit it. Deca shuts you down immediately and exogenous test will do the exact same thing.

[johnq]

cycle history is a bit of a joke i did two cycles 2 years ago which was deca and sust. which only lasted about 6 weeks. and 5 months ago i did tren a test e cycle which only lasted 6 weeks., i now no all 3 cycles should of been alot longer, dont flame i only joined this site 2 months ago, and i didnt have all the info i have now, which i got of this site.
stats
age 28
weight 205 lbs
good diet
been training a good few years

[Stock]

Lean muscle gains will come from diet. you can lean bulk on test alone, or test & dBol cycle(jumpstart). That is what I'm on now, 3 weeks, and with a clean diet, and help from an AI, I have almost no bloat. But if you are going to do it again, dont do it half-assed. Run a 10 week test cycle, w/ good PCT & diet, and thats all you will need to gain 10-15 lbs and keep most of it.

[johnq]

so if i take a test e,dBol cycle with a good pct, how long would it take for my natty test levels to go back to normal, i now everyones different but do you no roughly

[Johny-too-small]

You and I both know that you have no business using anabolics. Youre BF% is 25% and thats too high.

[johnq]

jonny2small hit the nail on the head. i wounded how long it would take you. did i ask for your advise no, for one had my bf% checked 19% so u was way out, and two we got different goals, thank ****, my goal is lose 5% bodyfat and put on 10lbs to 15lbs on i now it could take a year or two but ill get there. my ipoinion 190lbs looks to small. so stop butting in on my posts your info dont mean shit to me and who the **** gives you the right to tell me i got no right.

[RA]

Read up in the educational forum. There is a good thread on cycles for newbs.

[johnq]

been reading day in day out, but i cant find a answer 2 the above question, how long would it take for my natty test to return back to norm

[Amorphic]

Originally Posted by johnq
been reading day in day out, but i cant find a answer 2 the above question, how long would it take for my natty test to return back to norm

If you didnt get bloodwork done before a cycle you wouldnt know your "normal" test levels. It could take a few months roughly, depending on the person and the level of PCT agression. The only way to see if your test levels were within normal ranges after a cycle would be to get bloodwork done.

[johnq]

thanks for the info cheers guys. not everyone is a prick

[Johny-too-small]

jonny2small hit the nail on the head. i wounded how long it would take you. did i ask for your advise no, for one had my bf% checked 19% so u was way out, and two we got different goals, thank ****, my goal is lose 5% bodyfat and put on 10lbs to 15lbs on i now it could take a year or two but ill get there. my ipoinion 190lbs looks to small. so stop butting in on my posts your info dont mean shit to me and who the **** gives you the right to tell me i got no right.

Youre a fcuking liar. I cant believe that you went and edited your other threads to lower your claimed bf%, what you cant edit is other ppl's responses to your bullshit.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306997
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=307028
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306191

Anything over 15% is TOO FAT to use anabolics, ace.

I'll butt in on your stupid ass posts all day long to make an example for all the other newbs not to do something stupid like you. You say 190 is too small but you have 50+ lbs of fat. That is fing insane. Just in case you havent realized, fat doesnt mean big.

Good luck, brotha, you need it.

[taiboxa]

Youre a fcuking liar. I cant believe that you went and edited your other threads to lower your claimed bf%, what you cant edit is other ppl's responses to your bullshit.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306997
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=307028
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306191

Anything over 15% is TOO FAT to use anabolics, ace.

I'll butt in on your stupid ass posts all day long to make an example for all the other newbs not to do something stupid like you. You say 190 is too small but you have 50+ lbs of fat. That is fing insane. Just in case you havent realized, fat doesnt mean big.

Good luck, brotha, you need it.

15% isnt too fat LOL my trianing parther is bout 18%.. though he can military 445 for 3 LOL

[johnq]

i edited my other posts because those posts was posted yeterday. i had bf% checked today so i changed them to the CORRECT %. and whos the liar here, one minute im 20% next its 25% make your mind up, and anything over 15% is to fat to use anabolics w,t,f are u on about. stop talking shit and in my eyes 190 looks to skinny. your an arse on times, havent that other guy kicked the shit out of you yet?

[Johny-too-small]

i edited my other posts because those posts was posted yeterday. i had bf% checked today so i changed them to the CORRECT %. and whos the liar here, one minute im 20% next its 25% make your mind up, and anything over 15% is to fat to use anabolics w,t,f are u on about. stop talking shit and in my eyes 190 looks to skinny. your an arse on times, havent that other guy kicked the shit out of you yet?

Nevermind, im done. Good luck, chubs.

[Big]

been reading day in day out, but i cant find a answer 2 the above question, how long would it take for my natty test to return back to norm

not to give you a hard time, but you've been reading "day in day out" yet still had to ask if you should take deca by itself?

[Titleist]

been reading day in day out, but i cant find a answer 2 the above question, how long would it take for my natty test to return back to norm

You haven't been reading day in and day out, you prove this everytime you post. You result to flaming members when they are only looking out for your best interest.

19% BF proves you aren't ready to cycle. It just proves that you don't know how to eat healthy.

Instead of coming to the steroid forum and asking which compound can do the work for you, go read up on how to put together a proper diet and follow it.

[johnq]

im confused half of you guys tell its ok to do a cycle with 19%bf and the other half tells me your way to [fat] anyway who gives a ****.

[thunderin]

Many professional powerlifters and olympic lifters are over 20% bodyfat. It all depends on your goals.

Can a person with 25%+ bodyfat lose fat and gain muscle on an AAS cycle? I think we all know the answer is yes.

[Mista Massive]

Many professional powerlifters and olympic lifters are over 20% bodyfat. It all depends on your goals.

Can a person with 25%+ bodyfat lose fat and gain muscle on an AAS cycle? I think we all know the answer is yes.

but is it wise to give them the OK when they are asking questions about deca by itself? i think we all know the answer is no

[Mista Massive]

wait a minute, isn't this guy on HGH?

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnq
lol i got a hangover as we speak i feel like shit not drinking again.



Quote:
Originally Posted by johnq
and im taking HGH ive uppped my dose from 3 iu day to 5 iu a day

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306191

[johnq]

WTF as it got yo do with you if i was on hgh, go play with the kangeroos mista massive.

[Johny-too-small]

WTF as it got yo do with you if i was on hgh, go play with the kangeroos mista massive.

Oh god, I cant take it anymore....

You're such a fcuking tool. The reason why so many ppl here give you shit is because youre seen as a smartass newbie.

Yes, there are ppl that juice with high bf%, but they are trained and dedicated athletes. However, in your case, you’re fat and undisciplined. Lazy, poor eating, beer drinking, fat, angry, assholes like yourself have no business using gear. Its ppl like you that give gear its bad reputation.

[helium3]

Oh god, I cant take it anymore....

You're such a fcuking tool. The reason why so many ppl here give you shit is because youre seen as a smartass newbie.

Yes, there are ppl that juice with high bf%, but they are trained and dedicated athletes. However, in your case, you’re fat and undisciplined. Lazy, poor eating, beer drinking, fat, angry, assholes like yourself have no business using gear. Its ppl like you that give gear its bad reputation.

nice!

[helium3]

You can run anything however long you want.

Deca will shut down your natural test production almost immediately, causing all sorts of problems in the bedroom. Libido goes down the shitter and getting a hard-on is a chore. Unless you aren't getting any ass, I would suggest you run at least a TRT dose of test alongside your Deca.

The minimum I would run Deca is 10 weeks.

this aint always the case,my labido doubles on deca only.i think you have to run the compound alone to know exactly how it affects you.its not the best cycle id recommend though.

[Johny-too-small]

this aint always the case,my labido doubles on deca only.i think you have to run the compound alone to know exactly how it affects you.its not the best cycle id recommend though.

Your cycle is kicking ass on a low level of test right? How much deca are you running?

[king6]

He just want's to be told it is ok to do deca by itself.

The answer is yes, run it by itself, you will live.

[johnq]

jonnywishbone the only time other members give me shit is when u butt in and change the subject.
i got told u could run deca on its own. so thought i would ask u guys. so i ask a simple question. then u butted in saying i was to fat to use anabolics wtf man, u could of said no wouldnt recommend it.

[MFT81]

Best Thread Ever!!!

[Johny-too-small]

jonnywishbone the only time other members give me shit is when u butt in and change the subject.
i got told u could run deca on its own. so thought i would ask u guys. so i ask a simple question. then u butted in saying i was to fat to use anabolics wtf man, u could of said no wouldnt recommend it.

Youre right, peace homey. Would I use deca alone? Yes, only if I didnt care about risking a depressed labido. I have not ran deca alone due to the parrots claiming that it kills your boners.....that being said: my name is Johny-too-small to you, son. lol...

[Brazil]

i actually laughed out loud this is a funny thread. I took some juice while fat I sure dont regret it. Lost a ****load of wieght and gained tons of strength. But talking about deca My friends have complained of deca dick here in brazil cause they run shit short, no pcts and low doses thinking it will do less harm.

[Brazil]

Oh god, I cant take it anymore....

You're such a fcuking tool. The reason why so many ppl here give you shit is because youre seen as a smartass newbie.

Yes, there are ppl that juice with high bf%, but they are trained and dedicated athletes. However, in your case, you’re fat and undisciplined. Lazy, poor eating, beer drinking, fat, angry, assholes like yourself have no business using gear. Its ppl like you that give gear its bad reputation.

that was the best I laughed again as i quoted it im still smiling

[johnq]

no probs jonny, ill try and stop being lazy, poor eating, beer drinking, fat, angry, asshole i think you lost your temper ha ha

[Johny-too-small]

no probs jonny, ill try and stop being lazy, poor eating, beer drinking, fat, angry, asshole i think you lost your temper ha

No, I never lost my temper, Im cool as a cucumber. Ive seen a million of these threads and I enjoy being brutally honest.

[helium3]

Your cycle is kicking ass on a low level of test right? How much deca are you running?

i run 600mg a week deca with 250mg test.i was low on funds or id have run 800mg deca lol.

the only reason i ran test was that low/zero estrogen in the body for a long time can affect the bones and joints(to name two).

[taiboxa]

ok, enough stupid SHIT please.

Look if anyone is UNEDUCATED ENOUGH to ask about a deca only cycle w/o understanding how the nor group exogenous hormone will cause a whole array of issues via endogenous hormonal suppression i.e. impotence/depression/COMPLETE AND UTTER RETARDATION..
yet they CLAIM to have done the leg work on researching is nothing more than a lazy bum and requires no FURTHER REPLYS other than "GO RESEARCH U DAMN N00B"

other wise you boobs are just going to entice the lil shit to keep making dumb ass remarks taking up BOARD BANDWIDTH

[helium3]

to add to the thread i dont believe in fat people running steroids unless they are powerlifters i mean what are they doin it for,it shows that they already lack the discipline it takes to keep and obtain a decent body.