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    Dutasteride + AI = ?

    Testosterone ----x---> DHT
    Testosterone ----x---> Estrogen

    So basically with this combinatoin you are eliminating two pathways for testosterone metabolism. Testosterone levels may be in range but does the equation become top-heavy. The whole idea in my mind to pct is to make the htpa work overtime. Are the testicles working any harder if you are reducing pathways for elimination? All thoughts appreciated.

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    Well.... 11% testosterone gain after 1 year of using a Ar-5 inhibinator..

    not sure what percentage of test gets converted to estrogen, lets say another 10%..
    so that by using DUTA + an AI u'd maybe raise your test levels by 20% or so...
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    AI inhibitator of course we all pretty much use during PCT..so i'm not gonna touch on that..

    but the rest is somewhatl... ifaulty thinking..
    cause TEST still functions as DHT... so even tho u will have more TEST in the body, that test will still be doing the DHT functions, in fact it will prolly be doing them less efficiently...


    my thoughts
    Last edited by Pooks; 07-09-2007 at 10:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooks
    Unless you are having Gyno problems, I would not be using an AI while on cycle.
    It will lead to tiredness for one. Weakness in bones.

    Not too sure what you mean by top heavy.
    But if u're implying it will help you carry more testosterone... 11% testosterone gain after 1 year of using a Ar-5 inhibinator..

    not sure what percentage of test gets converted to estrogen, lets say 10%..
    so that by using DUTA + an AI u'd maybe raise your test levels by 20% or so...
    while being off cycle i would presume..

    umm well... its very faulty thinking..
    cause TEST still functions as DHT... so even tho u will have more TEST in the body, that test will still be doing the DHT functions, in fact it will prolly be doing them less efficiently...

    lack of estrogen ofcourse, = tiredness, and problems with bone density, injuries etc than ..

    my thoughts
    I think you are not getting what I'm asking. My question is in regards to recovery after cycle. AI is a common thing to have durring pct, dutasteride, not so much. If you are using both are you hurting recovery in that the testosterone has nowhere to go (at least less so).

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    so.. I re-read your question so had to edit..

    bottom line..

    I think your test numbers will look better on paper (after a lab test), during PCT.. using an AI inhibitor + DUTA..

    but..
    in reality..
    You will be the same or maybe even worse off than just using an AI inhibitor.
    I am pretty confident the testes do not shoot out extra testosterone if they notice low levels of 5-DHT... if that was true, than no matter how much extrogenous test u inject, as long as u keep 5-DHT levels down, u'd still be secreting test out of the testes.. that does not happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos
    I think you are not getting what I'm asking. My question is in regards to recovery after cycle. AI is a common thing to have durring pct, dutasteride, not so much. If you are using both are you hurting recovery in that the testosterone has nowhere to go (at least less so).

    oh ok, that is a good question..
    I would say NO,

    Testosterone still can function in place of DHT.. so it will still be binding to those receptors, therefore going somewhere..

    When one enters PCT.. Most TEST will be bound to SHBG receptors, therefore useless.. so not much FREE test.

    Need to look up if SHBG receptors release TEST when free test levels hit critically low levels.

    if that is the case, than being on DUTA might delay test-crash by a little bit.. I suppose setting you back a little bit.

    but the opposite could also be said.. saying that being on DUTA might help you recover during PCT.. because TEST is multifunctional, does DHT work, plus can enter skeletal muscle..
    while DHT cannot enter skeletal muscle.
    Last edited by Pooks; 07-09-2007 at 11:03 AM.

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