ok every source i have found says that they want references. so i posted on here and asked how to get them. the anwser was, u have to ask vets and mods for refs. so i started asking vets and mods for refs, i had a 2 tell me yea no problem and were very cool. guess they checked out my post and seen that i not i complete idiot(may not now it all but im learning like crazy). but alot of other said sorry i dont know u. so i cant help. my question is how am i suspose to get references from them. its not like i can walk over and meat them so they know im a cool guy. i spend like 3-4 hours a day on this site reading, responding and trying to help others while learning myself. what am i suspose to do?