No results from steroids, or t-3

[Warrior21]

Okay I made a similar post a while back about this subject and got torn a new one. I haven't been on the forums for a while because I got into Mixed Martial Arts really serious. I haven't quit MMA, but I want to do a cycle for bodybuilding purposes of course.
Before saying anything, I've used DNP b4 and have gotten decent results. But it didn't affect me as much as other people around me using the same dosage. To give you an idea of what I'm talking about, I could grapple for a good 10 minutes straight agressively while on 500-750mg of DNP. Sure, I sweat like hell, but don't feel so run down. I also wasn't burning as many calories as you would think. It would take about 10 days or so to lose a lb of fat.
Anyways, the real subject here is the fact that I don't get any results from steroids or t3 for that matter. I think something in my body is deactivating these hormones. It's true, I could take 100mcg of T3 and not feel a thing. While at the same time my brother will do 40mcg a day of T3 and have an appetite like a horse, and still get leaner.
With steroids it's the same thing. I don't see any muscle gains, no side effects, no increased pump, no vascularity. All I get from steroids is a leaner budget.
So what is the deal?

[BG]

Did you get your diet in check and build a base? Got any current pics? Last time you lied out your ass about almost everything.

[Kale]

How about some stats ? Age, height, weight ? What juice were you taking and how much ? How many calories a day do you think you were getting when you did the juice ?

[Warrior21]

Glad to see you havent forgotten me BigGuns. Lets not argue.
I just turned 21, when I made the post I lied about my age back in the day. But now I'm in the clear. I'm 5'10 198 lbs at 14% bf right now. My cals when doing the juice varied (several cycles). Most of the time I would have been between 3500-5000 cals.

[BG]

How about some stats ? Age, height, weight ? What juice were you taking and how much ? How many calories a day do you think you were getting when you did the juice ?

He lied about everything, 5000+ cals a day, 400 g's of protien.....then he posted a picture and he looked like he never dieted and trained before.....of course the juice didnt work, it did have a chance.

[Warrior21]

He lied about everything, 5000+ cals a day, 400 g's of protien.....then he posted a picture and he looked like he never dieted and trained before.....of course the juice didnt work, it did have a chance.

Now we both know thats not true. I've seen guys on here like 160-170 and people tell them " youre huge man you look gr8!"

[PEWN]

once a liar always a liar.... if you want good advice here buddy give us your exact information or we are just playing a guessing game....

[Warrior21]

once a liar always a liar.... if you want good advice here buddy give us your exact information or we are just playing a guessing game....

Exact info? Like what? Cycles?

I did one cycle with fina 75mg ed for 8 weeks and gained nothing.
I once did like 500mg of test and 400mg deca for 10 weeks and nothing
I've done anavar a few times at up to 100mgs a day and nothing.
masterdrols 2 a day for 6 weeks and nothing.

There's been a couple of more, but this would give you a good idea.

[dupa95]

3500-5000 cals???????? dial this in better to vague and protein should be near 200 mg a day. You need to learn how to gain natural. Then plateau (and no you hav not plateaued yet). so you got about 3 years of work to do as far as I see it then come see us. You won't be askin yull be doing cuz yull have the knowledge then.

[Lexed]

I call bs on all on top you wrote. I find it hard to believe u did all those cycles and gained nothing even if you eat pure shit. 100mg of anavar and nothing thats complete bs. Unless your a complete idiot and buying from the same source who is most likely selling you fake shit.

[Big]

This should be a poll:
Bunk gear?
Bad diet?
Total B.S.?

[Warrior21]

I been lifting for 6 years first off.
The Fina was homebrew, I made it from pellets. My bro did gr8 off the same batch.
The test (Galenika) and deca was from a very popular source in russia back in the day.
Anavar is from a very reputable powder source in china, very good friendly guy.
I got real stuff, my friends who tried it after me did fine on it.

Oh and 200mg of protein dosen't sound like much. I keep my protein in the 200-300 gram range.

[Lexed]

post a pic of yourself so we can see ur 6 years of training.

[Big]

post a pic of yourself so we can see ur 6 years of training.

you read my mind

[PEWN]

man with what you have taken ... something would have happened even eating mickey d;s....

your stuff is fake prob..

[Warrior21]

Here it is. Either way it dosent matter, you alrdy have a bad impression of me so youre going to put my physique down. And thats not insceurity speaking, I like my body. But like everybody else here I'd like to see how far I can take it with the help of diet, training, and roids. Were all doing the same thing.

[Big]

do you have any pics from before the cycle? If you didn't see any change and your diet was in check I'm still thinking bad gear, that's all it could be in my opinion.

[Warrior21]

man with what you have taken ... something would have happened even eating mickey d;s....

your stuff is fake prob..

I'd like to reiterate that my friends have used the same stuff and done fine. And none of them are as dedicated as I. It's real stuff, even when I took the var my piss turned like neon green, so it wasn't sugar or something like that. Besides that, it tasted like hell.

[Big]

so what's your theory, that your body just doesn't respond to any aas?

[Warrior21]

do you have any pics from before the cycle? If you didn't see any change and your diet was in check I'm still thinking bad gear, that's all it could be in my opinion.

It's not just one cycle, I listed several cycles. And na I dont have pics that date back too long. They were on one computer that got a virus and I threw it away and lost the pics plus much more. Hows it bad gear? I even did Masterdrol with no results. My brother got huge and painful pumps from that stuff, including back pumps from hell he said. My brother dosen't even have to tell me when hes on Masterdrol, I can tell just by the increased with and fullness in his shoulders when he workouts in a tank top.

[Blitz777]

Ok. So your theory is that your body doesn't respond to AAS, like ImaGetBigger said?

It's not just one cycle, I listed several cycles. And na I dont have pics that date back too long. They were on one computer that got a virus and I threw it away and lost the pics plus much more. Hows it bad gear? I even did Masterdrol with no results. My brother got huge and painful pumps from that stuff, including back pumps from hell he said. My brother dosen't even have to tell me when hes on Masterdrol, I can tell just by the increased with and fullness in his shoulders when he workouts in a tank top.

[Warrior21]

so what's your theory, that your body just doesn't respond to any aas?

Maybe it has a way of defending against any exogenous AAS, or hormones for that matter? I tried insulin once too. I did get pumped as hell from insulin, but no crazy muscle gains like it has been reported. Oh and no results from IGF-1 LR3 either. But then again the IGF seems to be hit or miss for alot of people. Especially at 21, I didn't need it anyway.

[BG]

Maybe it has a way of defending against any exogenous AAS, or hormones for that matter? I tried insulin once too. I did get pumped as hell from insulin, but no crazy muscle gains like it has been reported. Oh and no results from IGF-1 LR3 either. But then again the IGF seems to be hit or miss for alot of people. Especially at 21, I didn't need it anyway.

Slin does just that fills you out, the goes away after use. I think I need to bring 1**Mfkr out of retirement.

[5ballcharlie]

He lied about everything, 5000+ cals a day, 400 g's of protien.....then he posted a picture and he looked like he never dieted and trained before.....of course the juice didnt work, it did have a chance.

DAMN HE MUST BE HUNGRY

[Blitz777]

Pointless thread? Or is he the 1 in 1,000,000,000 where AAS will have no effect?

[Mista Massive]

man with what you have taken ... something would have happened even eating mickey d;s....

your stuff is fake prob..

this is so true. i know literally heaps of people that take gear and think a cycle is something like deca only for 6 weeks, or tren only for 6 weeks, etc... and these guys had NO CLUE AT ALL about diet and/or training. yet, their bodies still had some impressive improvements.

sorry, but i have to call bullshit on the following:

1) trainig for 6 years
2) utilising those amounts of cals/protein, etc.
3) running all those cycles.

[crazyhorse666]

sounds loke bullshit to me

[Booz]

hes come here and has not bitten on any of you guys that have ragged on him,give him a break and if you have nothing constructive to help or add here do me a favour and dont bother posting................

[pr0digy9daniel]

To give him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he has diabetes. Maybe there is some other unlikely medical illness, nutritional/mineral/vitamin deficiency, or maybe he is just undersensitive to AAS and needs a really high dose.

Personally, I think he should have a blood/urine test to check for diabetes, but in all likelyhood I think he is just a troll. Doing a 10 week cycle of testosterone and deca producing no results is almost a biological imposibility in a male wiith a functional androgen receptor (ie, fertile)...

If I were him, and he is telling the truth, I would get a blood test for testosterone, SHBG, and estrodiol also... Perhraps his SHBG is higher than usual...

[Warrior21]

hes come here and has not bitten on any of you guys that have ragged on him,give him a break and if you have nothing constructive to help or add here do me a favour and dont bother posting................

Thanks for your maturity and your support. Uunfortunately these were the same answers I got in the less thread I made over 8 months ago.
And no I'm not a troll, I have too many things to do right now to be wasting time trolling a BB forum, like my online college orientation I should be doing right now.

[Warrior21]

To give him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he has diabetes. Maybe there is some other unlikely medical illness, nutritional/mineral/vitamin deficiency, or maybe he is just undersensitive to AAS and needs a really high dose.

Personally, I think he should have a blood/urine test to check for diabetes, but in all likelyhood I think he is just a troll. Doing a 10 week cycle of testosterone and deca producing no results is almost a biological imposibility in a male wiith a functional androgen receptor (ie, fertile)...

If I were him, and he is telling the truth, I would get a blood test for testosterone, SHBG, and estrodiol also... Perhraps his SHBG is higher than usual...

I've tested all those before. They were all within normal ranges. My estradiol was in the high end of the normal range but thats it.

[vitor]

Warrior21- What about strenght increase? Doesnt your lifts, benchpress, squat etc, go up on cycle either?

Maybe you are producing some type of anti-bodies whenever you have exess androgens in your system, which makes steroids useless, I know this has happend in some very rare cases in medicine...

[Warrior21]

Warrior21- What about strenght increase? Doesnt your lifts, benchpress, squat etc, go up on cycle either?

Maybe you are producing some type of anti-bodies whenever you have exess androgens in your system, which makes steroids useless, I know this has happend in some very rare cases in medicine...

This is exactly what I was trying to say. Can you send me some links to those studies?
And no, no strength gains from a cycle either, absolutely no effect from roids at all.

[Booz]

hes come here and has not bitten on any of you guys that have ragged on him,give him a break and if you have nothing constructive to help or add here do me a favour and dont bother posting................

ive already warned everyone here.....................dont make me hand out a formal warning dupa................

[Warrior21]

Bump for useful information. Thanks Booz, good looking out bro.

[chipy]

why would he not tell the truth? i dont get it!!!!! isnt this forum for help????All this guy has got is 80% bull shit and a few people to help. Why dont you guys asking for pics put some of yours out on the site???

[PEWN]

this is getting ugly quick... i am staying out of this ...

[BROKEN]

well your not a scrawny twerp so something is helping

maby your work out routine sucks? over training improper movement with the weights

??

[BG]

Chipy lets see yours !!! Maybe you have not read my post but he came and lied before with the same bullshit lines. If juice doesnt work for (but it would if he dieted and trained right and I de like to see lab test of the juice he used) him, the BB'ing isnt for him. He's a troll, was exposed on other boards also, thats it. All this time to get in shape Warrior and you still look the same.

[Warrior21]

well your not a scrawny twerp so something is helping

maby your work out routine sucks? over training improper movement with the weights

??

Thanks dude but trust me I never gained anything at an accelerated rate, like you would on roids. That and ever since doing MMA I've lost a little bit of mass but some bf too.