what should i be noticing?

[annihil8tion]

Noob here guys - site and gear..

I am 37 5'11 175 (low bf) - experienced lifter

OK I am in the beginning of my 3rd week of the following

500 mg test e / 400 mg EQ - week

Right before the cycle I stopped taking ephedra - keeping appetite down and doin cardio

OK so I am up 10 lbs - I want to say I notice some changes in vascularity and size - but I still havent seen this jump in strength I have heard about.

I know the ester is long for this mix - what should I be noticing and when?

Thanks

[anabolicquest24]

im on my third week of test and ive noticed a large spike in strength, so idk why you wouldnt of noticed. just try to give it more time!

[jAcKeD!!!!]

give it another week or 2

[im83931]

Some people take longer for the test e to kick in. I have heard as long as 4-5 weeks. Did you frontload? What do you have lined up for pct?

[Panzerfaust80]

I;ve seen the word "frontload" many times on this board, however Ive never understood precisely what it means... I know I could do a "search" but it someone could please just define it in a sentence or two I would appreciate it. I am assuming it means load up on one kind of gear weeks prior to begining another, to accelerate results? But does "frontloading" refer to speicific types of juice?

Anyways bro wait till week 4, as i didnt see much in way of results till then anyway.

[annihil8tion]

Some people take longer for the test e to kick in. I have heard as long as 4-5 weeks. Did you frontload? What do you have lined up for pct?

Nolva for PCT...

I havent taken any as of yet..

What are your suggestions?

[im83931]

Forntloading link.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ight=frontload

[im83931]

I keep letro on hand in case of gyno. I use Nolva as well.

[annihil8tion]

I keep letro on hand in case of gyno. I use Nolva as well.

Well if I am not noticing any real strength changes yet.. I dont think I will be growing tits yet.. but then again

OK guys I will check back in like a week or 2.. I have beeb so pumped about this and have been dieting so good and takin in tons of protein..

i would hate to have this not work....

[annihil8tion]

BUMP

Just lookin to vent here and see if someone can offer an explanation/logic

Tomorrow will be my 8th shot (4th week) of 500 test e / 400 EQ - per week

Before the cycle I was pretty shredded and was takin ephedra and nutritional intake was minimal to normal.

OK I start the cycle - amp up nutritional intake to include 200 - 250 grams of protein a day as well as lots more carbs and everything else.

I am up 7 or 8 pounds and have noticed a slight amp in strength - but nothing close to what I am hearing about or reading about.

Plus I think the gains I see are the result of not takin ephedra anymore as well as a nutritonal change. I firmly dont believe these roids are doing anywhere near what they should. Wonder if they are fake...

Maybe I am overreacting...

[Panzerfaust80]

I think by now you should be at least 15 lbs if youve been eating right and lifting heavy. 7 or 8 lbs isnt much bro.. i gained 25 on my 1st cycle.

did u post ur gear in the pic forum to ask peeps if it is real or not?

[mx3]

on long esters I dont do my real growing till wk 7 thats when strength and weight dramatically increase for me.

[KJSolid]

Yeah give it a little more time. For me the test and EQ dont kick in until about week 5 or 6 unless you frontloaded. Dont sweat it yet, keep eating and hitting the weights hard, you will be fine.

[scaramouche]

BUMP

Just lookin to vent here and see if someone can offer an explanation/logic

Tomorrow will be my 8th shot (4th week) of 500 test e / 400 EQ - per week

Before the cycle I was pretty shredded and was takin ephedra and nutritional intake was minimal to normal.

OK I start the cycle - amp up nutritional intake to include 200 - 250 grams of protein a day as well as lots more carbs and everything else.

I am up 7 or 8 pounds and have noticed a slight amp in strength - but nothing close to what I am hearing about or reading about.

Plus I think the gains I see are the result of not takin ephedra anymore as well as a nutritonal change. I firmly dont believe these roids are doing anywhere near what they should. Wonder if they are fake...

Maybe I am overreacting...

yeh ur over-reacting, anywhere between now and week 6 it should be in ur face, by week 10 i start to worry eveyones gonna know im a juichead cos im so much stronger and bigger