fat loss/cut cycle...

[rampage12]

ok so im on bulk cycle now im thinking bout next cycle gonna do later on in like september probably,im gonna get it now so i know i have it..ok so im considering a clen/t3 cycle and was thinking of adding prop to it to help with losing muscle on cut cycle bad idea or good?

[fdrx7man]

its always good to use a mild steroid when using t3 to preserve muscle mass.. but what are your stats first?

[rampage12]

well rite now im 6'0 218 26 running 4th cycle now not gonna run that cycle stated above till bout september hoping to make 235 by end of cycle the im gonna do that cycle mentioned above (doses not sure of yet) to lean up

[rampage12]

bump...

[hugovsilva]

I think your cycle looks ok. I would add a dht such as var, winny or mast.

[rampage12]

so take winstrol,prop,t3,clen all in same cycle ? have any idea of t3 and clen doses?

[hugovsilva]

Those compounds are quite individual like. I myself pyramid both to about 100mcg to T3 and 120mcg for clen. Some people need more, some get away with less.

[rampage12]

so how do pyramid them? do u do 2 weeks on 2weeks off on the clen?

[The WeaPoN]

yeh clen is 2 wks on 2 off

[hugovsilva]

That info is all here bro and I am tired of posting it.

Check perfectbeast's clen faq.

[rampage12]

ok kool thanx hugo

[rampage12]

ok so if i do the pyramid thing like beast said...start at 60 add 20 till i get to 120mcg...do i just continue at 120mcg till i get ready to taper down and quit?" im gonna do it like he did and run benadryl at every 3rd week, would 75mg test prop eod be addequite?

[Njord]

ok so if i do the pyramid thing like beast said...start at 60 add 20 till i get to 120mcg...do i just continue at 120mcg till i get ready to taper down and quit?" im gonna do it like he did and run benadryl at every 3rd week, would 75mg test prop eod be addequite?

You don't need to pyramide down the clen dosage. Just stop. T3 should be pyramided up and down. 75mg Test P EOD will be fine

[rampage12]

well from what read on beast log he said to pyramid down not to just stop for it will shock the body

[rampage12]

bump...

[juicedapple463]

start at 60mcg and run it for 3 days and then bump to 80mcg for 3 more a so on til you reach a dose you feel comfotable with and is working, I recommend not exceeding 160mcg on clen and 100mcg on t3

[kynetguy]

well from what read on beast log he said to pyramid down not to just stop for it will shock the body

I definately subscribe to 'Beasts documentation on clen. I pyramid up and down. But I do recommend to not go over 160mcg. I top out at 120 before the sides suck too badly. I get shakes and bad headaches above 120. Sometimes even at 120.

[kynetguy]

But if I wanted a good cutter, I would do the magic trio. . .Mast P/Tren A/ Test P. . .but that is just me. I am not much of a T3 advocate and clen alone has minimal cutting results for me personally.

As far as T3 and a mild AAS. . .why? Clen is an anabolic/metabolic enhancer used in cattle to enhance growth and appetite. (illegal in the US though) Which is why I always thoug T3 was always ran with Clen, muscle preservation.

Clen is also a bronchodiolator, much like its long lost cousin Albuterol.

[hugovsilva]

start at 60mcg and run it for 3 days and then bump to 80mcg for 3 more a so on til you reach a dose you feel comfotable with and is working, I recommend not exceeding 160mcg on clen and 100mcg on t3

I always start at 20mcg and build up from there. If I start at 60mcg I will have insomnia, headaches and uncrotrolable heart rate and shakes. 20mcg is the dosage to start from for most.

[kynetguy]

If this is your first ever cycle of Clen and T3, definately start at 20mcg. It can have brutal side effects. Start it at 20mcg as Hugo suggests, and step up 20mcg every 3 days. Learn how you respond to it.

I am tellign you from expirience, the headaches and heart racing can be brutal.