messed up.

[Lach01]

Ok i've ****ed up, ive just realised that i have been taking clomid instead of my clens lol dont ask me how i done it i jkust have and didnt realise that the tabs i was taking were bigger than normal either.

anyway, first question is will this effect my course and myself at all or just raise my natural test leavels for a while?

my current course is:-
500mg sust/wk shot 250 eod - 12wks
200mg deca/wk (only for joints) - 10wks
40mgdbol ed - 6wks

second question, im juggling the idea to add winstrol in for the last 6weeks 50mg ed, just to get rid of any bloat that i will get through this course, what are opiouns on this???

all help any ideas great appreciated.

[ChuckLee]

No probs with the Clomid. Assure to have it for your PCT.
How can you inject sust 250mg EOD and have only 500mg/week???
Good to add Winny the last weeks if you already have a quite low bodyfat bro.

CL

[Lach01]

No probs with the Clomid. Assure to have it for your PCT.yeah i got it for pct just cant beleave i didnt look closure at blister pack before taking lol
How can you inject sust 250mg EOD and have only 500mg/week???good point didnt realise that when i said, my bad got the dosage mixed up is 125mg eod not 250,
Good to add Winny the last weeks if you already have a quite low bodyfat bro.yeah have a low bodyfat % already, and hopefully once i start this it'll be even lower.

CL

Cheers for advise chuck, going to be running the clens for the next 8weeks(till end off course) following perfects method of using benydrl every three weeks.

[VTliftVT]

Cheers for advise chuck, going to be running the clens for the next 8weeks(till end off course) following perfects method of using benydrl every three weeks.

Why are you running clen with the cycle? Is this not a bulker for you?

[Lach01]

Yeah i know, not wanting to bulk bulk want to gin lean mass whislt bulking and clens will also elimenate some water retention from the dbol getting rid of the puffyness whislt buring a little extra fat.

[VTliftVT]

Yeah i know, not wanting to bulk bulk want to gin lean mass whislt bulking and clens will also elimenate some water retention from the dbol getting rid of the puffyness whislt buring a little extra fat.

You could run arimidex EOD at .25 mg to eliminate water retention. Think about what you are doing by using clen on a cycle you are trying to add muscle mass. Your putting in calories to gain muscle. Most of us eat like it will be our last meal ever around 7 times a day.

If you want to stay leaner, eat less. It seems counter productive to be eating and trying to gain mass (mass = intake calories > expended calories) but then taking something to burn more calories. It seems the best thing you could do would be to find your maintenance caloric intake and eat a smaller amount of calories above that to not put on excess fat while still gaining muscle. I may be way off track here though?

[Lach01]

arimidex cant get hold of.

I see where your coming from but if i eat ay less than what im doing now then i wont be gaining weight, i have used clen in a previous bulking cycle with good results without the knowledge ive gainned from here, so have decide to throw in again to see if i can increase on those goals. cant see any harm in doing this, im sat on my arse in work 8hrs a day so a little help with cals being burnt would be benifcal to me.

but i have taken the point on board.

[Njord]

I'd be a bit leery of running to oral for as long as you have planned. Dbol and winny in the same cycle always seemed kind of contradictory to me.

[Lach01]

I'd be a bit leery of running to oral for as long as you have planned. Dbol and winny in the same cycle always seemed kind of contradictory to me.

didnt think of that one to be honest might even drop the dbol early then as i can start to feel the sust kicking in now and do the winstrol over 5weeks instead of the 6, Shoot the winstrol not taking orals BTW

doing it this way as i wont have much time to go onto a cutter cycle this year by the time i fully recover - 16weeks, (september) wont.

So trying to bulk but with a decent shape at the same time low bf and hard.