How much does letro hurt gains?

[Concept420]

first time running AI on cycle and gains almost seemed to have stopped.
dbol/deca/E cycle; 1.25mg per day Letro
Is this normal? strength was REALLY starting to increase then just flatlined about 2 days after starting letro

[Dukkit]

why are you taking such a high dose of letro?? i would only do .25 mg per day if you really need it. but you need estrogen to make muscle. so i dont even use any AI's unless i see signs of gyno. are you prone to gyno?? reduce your amount or stop it all together and you will see better gains bro.

[Concept420]

Ya, i was getting gyno pretty bad

[Concept420]

I have been using letro for about a week and all gyno symptoms are gone.

[Dukkit]

well if your gyno is gone. try lowering your dose to .25 mg and that should hold it at bay and let you get some gains also...

[longhorn814]

yes some estrogen is a good thing..using an AI will lower the amount of estrogen, but it will also affect your gains..however you were getting gyno so you needed it..try running nolva instead now

[Concept420]

nolva now? got it... what dose ya think?
Im 5'8" 175

[Schmidty]

nolva now? got it... what dose ya think?
Im 5'8" 175

as long as u dont have any 19nors n ur cycle ur good then and id say run the nolva, but i wouldnt if u got deca or tren n it though

[longhorn814]

oh yeah forgot he was running deca..dont run nolva..my bad

[Merc..]

Yep, Nolva increses PgR in breast tissue , and can POSSIBLY increase your chances of getting gyno , when using a 19 nor ) ....

[Merc..]

Here is link to my estrogen and AI article ... I didnt know if you saw this thread or not ??


http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...light=estrogen


Merc.

[Concept420]

Hadn't seen that thread... Thanks a lot Merc, and got it... No nolva... should i just stick out the gyno and run a reversal after the remainder of my cycle? That story fits me exactly... Or would it be more beneficial to just drop the deca?

[football2007]

drop test dose a bit as well as letro dose.

You seem prone like I am. I had to ramp letro up to shrink a lump and it killed my strength/size gains. Keep it as low as possible.