Here is my cycle...critique

[Mooker]

Stats
6'1"
255 lbs
got some bf but not worried. bout 21%

This is my third true cycle. Been off for 1.5 years.

Diet is good and clean. Lots of protein and good carbs and good fats.

week 1-14 200mg Deca 1 shot per week
week 1-16 300mg Test Cyp 1 shot per week
week 3-16 20mg nova ed

I will be using clomid for pct.

I am thinking of adding ??????
week 10-16 primobolan dosage?????

So what do you guys think?

[magicstick2003]

Personally i would up the dose just a bit, nothing drastic but i would go more like this
deca @ 300-400/wk
test @ 500/wk
Then split the dose into two shots, i usually go every 3 or 4 days. keeps levels more stable throughout whereas once a week will steadily decline till your next shot. i'd throw in some B6 as well to help with any prolactin increase from the deca. (may want to have something like cabergoline on hand just in case but at a low dose like that you shouldn;t have too many problems unless you're really prone to them)

as for the pct i always used clomid and nolva used to be the standard a little while back and always worked for me.

[longhorn814]

you dont want to run nolva while using deca..it can cause gyno by upregulating the progesterone receptor..use an AI instead..deca is very supressive..i would use more than just clomid for PCT..primo is a long ester the same as test and needs to be run for 10 weeks, plus you need at least 600mg/wk to really notice anything from it..dont bother

[Mooker]

So no nolva during.....correct. Which AI should I use?

[Mooker]

you dont want to run nolva while using deca..it can cause gyno by upregulating the progesterone receptor..use an AI instead..deca is very supressive..i would use more than just clomid for PCT..primo is a long ester the same as test and needs to be run for 10 weeks, plus you need at least 600mg/wk to really notice anything from it..dont bother

So....should liquidex be used in place of nolva during. Should I use the nolva for pct? With clomid?

What would you reccommend to harden up during the end of my cycle? Tren?

[longhorn814]

adex or letro will be fine..definitely use clomid and nolva during PCT..may want to use some HCG during cycle due to decas supressive nature..

[magicstick2003]

letro may be too excessive for your needs in this cycle i agree with l-dex though. in all honesty you really shoudn;t have to many issues with these doses unless you're very prone to sides. HCG could be used but i've found that by running the test a few extra weeks things don;t take all that long to kick back in.

[inky-e]

So no nolva during.....correct. Which AI should I use?

i like arimidex while on cycle only when i feel a little gyno coming on.

[Mooker]

Can I just take my nolva if I feel any sides gyno sides coming on?

[mx3]

Can I just take my nolva if I feel any sides gyno sides coming on?

no you cant. do not take nolva while on a 19-nor(deca). I would up your dose of deca to 400mg ew. Is your primo ace or enth.

[200byjune]

id get winny to harden up

[magicstick2003]

no you cant. do not take nolva while on a 19-nor(deca). I would up your dose of deca to 400mg ew. Is your primo ace or enth.

In all honesty i don't know how much this is really upregulated. I can only speak from my own experience but i never noticed any issues when i ran nolva during a test and deca run. i also ran B6 with it to help cut back on prolactin but i never had any issues but like i said that's just me..everyone is different.