Is it possible/hard to make test gel from testosterone?

[Bojangles69]

I had a problem with my last cycle (which was my first) where even though I was injecting different spots in my ass the skin all around my ass seemed to thicken to the point where it felt like I was sticking paper clips through the skin.
Needless to say around week 5 I couldn't hit my glutes anymore cause the pain was unbearable and I'd literally start tearing in my eyes when I shot myself (using proper gauge and new needles everytime of course).
So I started injecting in my abs and at some point I around week 7 I wasn't experiencing ANY type of increase in anything.

I assumed it was bunk (even though I knew it could take longer I just lost all my motivation to keep shooting).

I soon learned it wasn't bunk when I didn't do PCT (because I was pretty sure at the time it was bunk or I didn't need to because it didn't kick in). It was a stupid decision because a few weeks later my nipples got itchy and hard at which point I got on Nolva and did a PCT immediately. When I got off the Nolva my nips were still hard. I thought it would be permanent but somehow after about 3-4 months I noticed the hardness dissappeared and everything was back to normal.

I guess I got lucky in that respect.

Long story short I DO NOT like the idea of injecting anymore, call me a ***** but I was thinking about ordering some test base or another form and making it into a transdermal gel but I've never seen if its actually possible to make yourself.

I know about testgel and androgel and the consensus seems to be that you don't get enough test in your blood to actually get a decent affect.

But what I was thinking was using something that penetrates your skin faster or simply using a much higher concentration or amount. I'm not sure whats in the gel but if its in gel form that alone would make me think it can't get through your pores like other solvents could.

Like using grain alcohol for example. In my opinion it would take A LOT to have any kind of affect like drinking alcohol would, but as something to penetrate the skin and as a solvent its just an idea. Theres prob lots of other potential solvents/mixes but I'm not a chemist.

ANOTHER idea I had was getting a crapload of test (I get it cheap enough to do & noone contact me asking for a source) and making a personalized gel or patch of my own that had like 10 times the amount the gel has which would increase the absorption by 10 times too, right?

The same idea as sticking 100 nicotine patches on someone to kill them. The more you use the more that is absorbed.

I don't see why this wouldn't be possible. For the amount I pay for vials I get the powder MUCH MUCH cheaper which I believe would make this possible.. if someone could maybe point me in the right direction. And yes I'd much rather be willing to go through all this trouble than to shoot myself twice a week, sounds crazy I know but I like the idea. =]

[jbonez19]

i've been on cream. there's usually two strengths. if you use the strong one you WILL get some good effects. as for making it yourself, whew, i dunno do you have your own lab. shooting your ABS! shit dude, no wonder you have a thing about needles now. i question how knowledgable you were about the whole jabbing process. i would urge you to do some propper research and give it one last try. maybe steer clear of your glutes AND DEFINITELY your abs, ouch. check this out. w w w . s p o t i n j e c t i o n s . c o m good luck bro

[Merc..]

The lecithin based organogels are pretty good..

Phlo jel is a pretty good transdermal carrier ( somewhere around 35-40 % absorbtion rate).. But inject is best ..

[Merc..]

General Description

PHLOJEL® Ultra is a lecithin organogel that has been formulated to have cosmetic properties, being non-greasy and having improved skin penetration of incorporated active ingredients. After application to the skin, it rapidly disappears leaving no residue. It has been widely accepted as a superior vehicle for delivering drugs across the skin barrier where relatively high local concentrations of drug are obtained from small applied doses, It also allows drug to perfuse the skin reaching the general circulation when desired, making the topical route an important alternative to the oral route which often is intolerant to the drug.

Preparing Topically-active Creams

Compounding with PHLOJEL® Ultra can occur using either the slab & spatula or mortar & pestle methods for small to medium quantities. It is compatible with a wide range of concentrations depending on the drug. In particular, it forms a firm cream using 10-20 percent diclofenac sodium unlike typical PLO gels. When necessary, a small amount of levigating agent can be tolerated with a more crystalline substance, such as ketoprofen.

Advantages
Ease of compounding
Non-greasy and no residue after application
Compatible with a wide range of drugs and concentrations
Clinically-proven to deliver drug to local and systemic sites
Possesses skin moisturizing abilities

[Bojangles69]

Awesome, thanks merc and jbonez.
I was considering the fact of new injection sites but I would much rather try a superior cream/gel first before reattempting with the needles.
I have the resources and a decent grip on chemistry so I'd like to try making some extremely powerful transdermal formula only because I think its possible and could def be worth it if done correct or improvising on old or even new ideas.

[Merc..]

Check this out by Carl Lanore..

http://www.phlojel.us/dl/PJU%20Tutorial.pdf


Merc.

[Schmidty]

why did u start shooting abs??? u coulda done quars delts ect?

[Merc..]

^^^^

[Bojangles69]

why did u start shooting abs??? u coulda done quars delts ect?

Honestly I'm not entirey sure why.

I think it had a bit to do with the fact that the only 2 places I really can't see vains on my body are my glutes and abs. I know its a stupid reason but I just felt more comfortable shooting the abs because it seemed like there was a larger possibility of hitting something I shouldn't in the leaner areas of my body.

& thanks merc I'm gonna read that right now.

[_CrossroadS_]

Just thinking out loud, anyone see this as a pretty good alternative for traveling with gear...be a hell of a lot easier to disguise a lotion than injectables...

Hmmm...

[nojoke]

General Description

PHLOJEL® Ultra is a lecithin organogel that has been formulated to have cosmetic properties, being non-greasy and having improved skin penetration of incorporated active ingredients. After application to the skin, it rapidly disappears leaving no residue. It has been widely accepted as a superior vehicle for delivering drugs across the skin barrier where relatively high local concentrations of drug are obtained from small applied doses, It also allows drug to perfuse the skin reaching the general circulation when desired, making the topical route an important alternative to the oral route which often is intolerant to the drug.

Preparing Topically-active Creams

Compounding with PHLOJEL® Ultra can occur using either the slab & spatula or mortar & pestle methods for small to medium quantities. It is compatible with a wide range of concentrations depending on the drug. In particular, it forms a firm cream using 10-20 percent diclofenac sodium unlike typical PLO gels. When necessary, a small amount of levigating agent can be tolerated with a more crystalline substance, such as ketoprofen.

Advantages
Ease of compounding
Non-greasy and no residue after application
Compatible with a wide range of drugs and concentrations
Clinically-proven to deliver drug to local and systemic sites
Possesses skin moisturizing abilities

Do u know if this product is better than DMSO?

[nojoke]

Just thinking out loud, anyone see this as a pretty good alternative for traveling with gear...be a hell of a lot easier to disguise a lotion than injectables...

Hmmm...

Seems like it would be virtually imposible to detect!....Good thinking bro...



NJ

[lex57]

Effective Tuesday, September 26, 2006, air travelers may now carry liquids, gels and aerosols in their carry-on bag when going through security checkpoints.

With certain exceptions for prescription and over-the-counter medicines, baby formula, breast milk, and juice, and other essential liquids, gels, and aerosols, the following rules apply to all liquids, gels, and aerosols you want to carry through a security checkpoint.

All liquids, gels and aerosols must be in three-ounce or smaller containers. Larger containers that are half-full or toothpaste tubes rolled up are not allowed. Each container must be three ounces or smaller.

All liquids, gels and aerosols must be placed in a single, quart-size, zip-top, clear plastic bag. Gallon size bags or bags that are not zip-top such as fold-over sandwich bags are not allowed. Each traveler can use only one, quart-size, zip-top, clear plastic bag.

Each traveler must remove their quart-sized plastic, zip-top bag from their carry-on and place it in a bin or on the conveyor belt for X-ray screening. X-raying separately will allow TSA security officers to more easily examine the declared items.

Bringing a prohibited item to a security checkpoint - even accidentally - is illegal.
Please keep in mind that these rules were developed after extensive research and understanding of current threats. They are intended to help air travelers bring essential toiletries and other liquids, gels and aerosols for short trips. If you need larger amounts of liquids, gels and aerosols such as toothpaste or shampoo, please place them in your luggage and check them with your airline.

From the T.S.A. website. sounds ok if its checked bags, but probably not carry ons though.