Masteron -vs- Primo

[Synyster]

i just finished doing a little reading on these two great chemicals. however, i swear they are twins in the AAR family. For those of you taking one of these two chems, why the hell is Primo so much more costly than Masteron if they have similar effects??

[BG]

I dont know either, expensive powder??? Ive ran primo and honestly isny worth the money imo. I ran it at 600mgs, wanted to hit 1000 but it was just too much oil to inject for what I was going to get out of it, I ended up stopping at week 5 because I didnt want to cause un-needed scare tissue or oil saturation in my inject sites. For the money I would try to find oral var (atleast you'll get some strength) or you can try mast -p. I know many guys that swear by primo, but just isnt a worth while investment to me, Ill spend it on GH lol.

[Synyster]

I dont know either, expensive powder??? Ive ran primo and honestly isny worth the money imo. I ran it at 600mgs, wanted to hit 1000 but it was just too much oil to inject for what I was going to get out of it, I ended up stopping at week 5 because I didnt want to cause un-needed scare tissue or oil saturation in my inject sites. For the money I would try to find oral var (atleast you'll get some strength) or you can try mast -p. I know many guys that swear by primo, but just isnt a worth while investment to me, Ill spend it on GH lol.

yeah HGH is some good stuff but it takes sooooooo freakin long for you to see results. im not trying to inject myself for 6-9 months straight. thats just insane! well ill do more research on Masteron. im really looking for a nice and mild cutting agent. i ran a cycle of clen once. ive never take that crap again. i just hated having the shakes everyday.

[BG]

PM Jahova, his pretty experienced with Primo and Mast. I mean winny is a cheap and very effective compound, I actually see transformation when I run it.

[Synyster]

PM Jahova, his pretty experienced with Primo and Mast. I mean winny is a cheap and very effective compound, I actually see transformation when I run it.

cool ill make sure to PM him then. are far as Winny goes, doesnt that shyt have horrible sides? iheard very good things about Winny and very bad things. i guess you just have to choose the lesser of two evils.

[nowdenlid]

I Will Be Useing Primo Next Year @800-1000mgs Ew For 16 Weeks And Test P 100mgs Ed Weeks 9-17 Cant Wait...

[Synyster]

damn what are you preparing for?? lol.....

[nowdenlid]

damn what are you preparing for?? lol.....

LOL..............230 LBS 8%...................THATS MY GOAL BY NEXT SUMMER...
202LBS 10% NOW .....18 DAYS INTO SUST/WINNY CYCLE

[Synyster]

doesnt that winny make your hair fall out??

[nowdenlid]

doesnt that winny make your hair fall out??

I HAVENT STARTED YET BRO I AM 18 DAYS INTO SUST AND WILL BE STARTING WINNY WEEKS 9-14.I HEAR ABOUT JOINT AND HAIR PROBS THO,,,,GONNA TRY IT OUT AND SEE..

[J-41-sd]

whinny kills my joints, as for primo I have yet to run it. first off it is way too expensive and it must be run for at least 12 weeks, now masteron on the other hand, I love that stuff! One of the single greatest compounds I have ever run, no joint pain, hardens better than whinny and gives me energy and aggression in the gym, I will never run another cycle without it, minimal weight gains but hard dense quality gains.

[inkslinger]

I ran primo on my first cycle and it was awesome~! im sure it was a combination of it being my first cycle but it really worked well for me. At the time it was THAT pricey ..
As for masteron I ran that on my last cycle with HGH and prop and it was really good, most will say you need to be really low bf% to actually "see" the results from it .. its supposed to give you a hard chiseled look

[Synyster]

thats what im talking! i wanted to run test but that crap blows you up like a whale, i wanted to try winny but there are joint/hair issues and ive ALWAYS wanted to get my hands on HGH until i found out that you have to run that stuff for an extremely long time. masteron is the only other product on my list of possibilities.

[BG]

cool ill make sure to PM him then. are far as Winny goes, doesnt that shyt have horrible sides? iheard very good things about Winny and very bad things. i guess you just have to choose the lesser of two evils.

I do get a bit of elbow pain from winny, but I have as long as I lift heavy. The strength gains I get from winny is crazy so I attribute that somewhat to my aches and pains. I always hit my max lifts when using winny, just the idea of shooting all that oil with primo and not getting too much turns me away.

[Synyster]

well ive already scratched primo of my list. im reading more in depth on masteron as we speak. sounds like pretty good shyt. but there so much fake masteron out there. illl just do my best to find a good source.

[goose]

I make a painless 250/mg cocktail,what was your oil?

I found powder stuff half as strong as schering

So with schering at 100,its very possible to inject that oil,with powder got to be dosed high,but I agree with your posts....

I do get a bit of elbow pain from winny, but I have as long as I lift heavy. The strength gains I get from winny is crazy so I attribute that somewhat to my aches and pains. I always hit my max lifts when using winny, just the idea of shooting all that oil with primo and not getting too much turns me away.

[Synyster]

I make a painless 250/mg cocktail,what was your oil?

I found powder stuff half as strong as schering

So with schering at 100,its very possible to inject that oil,with powder got to be dosed high,but I agree with your posts....

a little off topic here....but who the hell does that avatar ass belong to??

[ShadetreeJones]

How can a thread like this be going on but no mention of equipoise?? I'm just finishing up a test e/eq cycle and loved the results. Eq seems to be compared commonly with deca and after running the two compounds in back to back cycles I like eq a lot more than deca and think that eq and primobolan is much more suitable comparison.

[goose]

How can a thread like this be going on but no mention of equipoise?? I'm just finishing up a test e/eq cycle and loved the results. Eq seems to be compared commonly with deca and after running the two compounds in back to back cycles I like eq a lot more than deca and think that eq and primobolan is much more suitable comparison.

EQ is horse shit.its not for human use.

Its clear you have not ran primo or masteron

deca is nothing like EQ!!!

[ShadetreeJones]

EQ is horse shit.its not for human use.

Its clear you have not ran primo or masteron

deca is nothing like EQ!!!

Izzat right? Well then by that logic tren is cowshit because it's not for humans either dickhead.

I've had two different buddies who ran about 400mg/week of eq and about 600mg/week of primo and BOTH said they got stronger and more vascular with eq. And also spent less than half for an entire cycle of both and kept roughly the same amount of muscle.

In my post I said that a popular comparison is eq and deca then I said right after that I HAD JUST RUN THE 2 COMPOUNDS BACK TO BACK so obviously I realize they are not similar in the least.

[Chiefsman123]

I dont know either, expensive powder??? Ive ran primo and honestly isny worth the money imo. I ran it at 600mgs, wanted to hit 1000 but it was just too much oil to inject for what I was going to get out of it, I ended up stopping at week 5 because I didnt want to cause un-needed scare tissue or oil saturation in my inject sites. For the money I would try to find oral var (atleast you'll get some strength) or you can try mast -p. I know many guys that swear by primo, but just isnt a worth while investment to me, Ill spend it on GH lol.

I had similar experiences with primo, although mine were just a tad bit more positive. I did notice good effects from primo, but not sure I would run it again. The price and the effects just don't stack up in my opinion.

[BG]

Izzat right? Well then by that logic tren is cowshit because it's not for humans either dickhead.

Asshole watch how the fuc you talk to staff, he's got more knowledge and spoken to more pro's then youve ever dreamed of. Stop talking out your ass.

[BG]

The price and the effects just don't stack up in my opinion.

Totally agree, plus the amount of oil you have to shoot to get the desired 1000mgs everybody says is a must to see results.

Goose mine was 100mg UGL and being a UGL I still paid too much.

[ShadetreeJones]

Asshole watch how the fuc you talk to staff, he's got more knowledge and spoken to more pro's then youve ever dreamed of. Stop talking out your ass.

I never questioned his credentials just used the same logic he used with me. People make mistakes and he obviously made one. So chill. And it's "than" not "then".

[BG]

And it's "than" not "then".

You called him dickhead asshole. Who give's a fuc about than or then, never claimed to be a scholar.

[Booz]

Izzat right? Well then by that logic tren is cowshit because it's not for humans either dickhead.

I've had two different buddies who ran about 400mg/week of eq and about 600mg/week of primo and BOTH said they got stronger and more vascular with eq. And also spent less than half for an entire cycle of both and kept roughly the same amount of muscle.

In my post I said that a popular comparison is eq and deca then I said right after that I HAD JUST RUN THE 2 COMPOUNDS BACK TO BACK so obviously I realize they are not similar in the least.

cut the crap and consider this a warning!!!
this is a no flame policy board mate you have crossed the line,where did Goose call you a dickhead??
we do not tolerate this here and he is a staff member and very knowledgable this repost was out of order and not needed at all................

[Brent_G]

Booz you dickhead

[Synyster]

well thank yo uall for fuccin up my thread!! LOL!!! anyways thank you all for the feedback as well.......

[fdrx7man]

poo poo head!! ca ca breath!! sorry had to say it..

cant we all just get along??

[Synyster]

my thread has been officially hijacked. its all good though. as long as i got a little feedback.

[Jackblack20]

thats what im talking! i wanted to run test but that crap blows you up like a whale, i wanted to try winny but there are joint/hair issues and ive ALWAYS wanted to get my hands on HGH until i found out that you have to run that stuff for an extremely long time. masteron is the only other product on my list of possibilities.

you mentioned that you have hair issue problems then you should take a lot of caution with masteron cause it is DHT and that is going to give you the most hair issues you could ask for! From what i hear it's some good sht tho

[bbminded]

so if it can cause hairloss because of the dht would it not make sense to take a product like durastred(sp) as it might hinder gains??

[Atomini]

I'm currently using Masteron right now for cutting up and I love it!!!

I have never used Primo and I never ever will simply because I hear it's very overrated from people who have experience with it, and it's expensive as hell. I would say that Masteron is the stronger (and much cheaper) brother of Primo. Before I started the cutting cycle i'm now on, I was thinking of using Primo until I read more about Masteron and I was sold immediately. I'm injecting 100mg of Masteron every other day with some test. I don't expect to see big gains or strength or whatnot simply because this is a cutting cycle i'm doing and i'm on a caloric deficit, so the cals just aren't there to support muscle growth. Add to the fact that i'm using T3 in this cycle.

But seriously, go for Masteron over everything else. I love this stuff. The only thing I hear is that it aggrivates hair loss. I don't worry about that simply because I just don't have the genetics for male pattern baldness, and i'm also using nizoral shampoo to block DHT on the scalp. So if you know you have the genetics for MPB, you might wanna stay away from Masteron or use nizoral shampoo while on cycle (if youre VERY prone to MPB, even nizoral might not work).

[Atomini]

so if it can cause hairloss because of the dht would it not make sense to take a product like durastred(sp) as it might hinder gains??

Dutasteride, finasteride, propecia, etc. will not do shit if you're using Masteron.

All those compounds do is stop the conversion of testosterone (or any other AAS) into DHT.

Masteron is ALREADY a DHT, so those things wont work because all they do is stop conversion. Masteron doesn't convert into anything. Best thing to do is use nizoral shampoo.

And MPB is hereditary, it will only happen if you are prone to it.

[maxiderm]

I'm currently using Masteron right now for cutting up and I love it!!!

I have never used Primo and I never ever will simply because I hear it's very overrated from people who have experience with it, and it's expensive as hell. I would say that Masteron is the stronger (and much cheaper) brother of Primo. Before I started the cutting cycle i'm now on, I was thinking of using Primo until I read more about Masteron and I was sold immediately. I'm injecting 100mg of Masteron every other day with some test. I don't expect to see big gains or strength or whatnot simply because this is a cutting cycle i'm doing and i'm on a caloric deficit, so the cals just aren't there to support muscle growth. Add to the fact that i'm using T3 in this cycle.

But seriously, go for Masteron over everything else. I love this stuff. The only thing I hear is that it aggrivates hair loss. I don't worry about that simply because I just don't have the genetics for male pattern baldness, and i'm also using nizoral shampoo to block DHT on the scalp. So if you know you have the genetics for MPB, you might wanna stay away from Masteron or use nizoral shampoo while on cycle (if youre VERY prone to MPB, even nizoral might not work).

what were your sides like on masteron as far as blood pressure, lethargy, and acne? ive been wanting to try this compound for a while... but i cant use something that is harsh on bp..

[Atomini]

what were your sides like on masteron as far as blood pressure, lethargy, and acne? ive been wanting to try this compound for a while... but i cant use something that is harsh on bp..

Thus far no acne at all. Then again I am not prone to acne and never was even during puberty. The only times acne flares up is PCT because hormone levels are up and down, and even then its not all that much. Just 1 or 2 extra zits each week. But you must remember everyone's skin has different sensitivity to DHT. Mine obviously isn't very sensitive.

Lethargy is nonexistant.

Blood pressure is up but that's not because of the Masteron, it's because of the clen that i'm using. You'd have to ask someone who has used Masteron without clen to get a good answer on the blood pressure issue, but to tell you the truth, all research shows that Masteron doesn't have any effects on blood pressure. Increased BP results from aromatizing steroids such as testosterone. Why does this happen? Because estrogen buildup equals water retention. More water retention equals higher blood pressure. Masteron doesn't convert to estrogen and it infact is an anti-estrogen and will reduce estrogen levels. So I would go so far as to say it may reverse estrogen related blood pressure issues.

[maxiderm]

Thus far no acne at all. Then again I am not prone to acne and never was even during puberty. The only times acne flares up is PCT because hormone levels are up and down, and even then its not all that much. Just 1 or 2 extra zits each week. But you must remember everyone's skin has different sensitivity to DHT. Mine obviously isn't very sensitive.

Lethargy is nonexistant.

Blood pressure is up but that's not because of the Masteron, it's because of the clen that i'm using. You'd have to ask someone who has used Masteron without clen to get a good answer on the blood pressure issue, but to tell you the truth, all research shows that Masteron doesn't have any effects on blood pressure. Increased BP results from aromatizing steroids such as testosterone. Why does this happen? Because estrogen buildup equals water retention. More water retention equals higher blood pressure. Masteron doesn't convert to estrogen and it infact is an anti-estrogen and will reduce estrogen levels. So I would go so far as to say it may reverse estrogen related blood pressure issues.

another source of high blood pressure is from increasing RBC (like equipoise), thus why people donate blood to control it... do you guys know if thats the case with a dht type of steroid like masteron?