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    Decided to join the AS club. Need Advice.

    I have decided to start my first cycle. I am 5'8 148lbs and 6% bodyfat. My goal is to gain 20lbs with my first cycle but to stay lean coming out of it. This is what I have put together. Any advice would be greatly appreciated or questions about me specific goals.

    WKs 1-10 400mg/wk Omnadren 250
    WKs 1-10 400mg/wk EQ
    WKs 1-5 20-30(?)mg/wk D-Bol

    I would like to run winny around week 7 but I don't know how long I can run it. Also I would like some advice on anti-estrogen. I can get pretty much anything so if something would work better let me know.

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    Bump. Come on bros.

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    IMO, if you are thinking of running D-Bol or Winny in your 1st cycle, just stick to one of them. Using both in your 1st cycle along with the Omna & Eq is just a little too much. But that's just my opinion. If you decide on the Winny then you could run it weeks 7-12.. then, start your Clomid 300-100-50 after your're finished the Winny. Oh, and Nolva on hand is always a good idea!

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    Looks like a pretty solid cycle for a first cycle. You've obviously done your homework Like Tri said, run the winstrol from week 7-12 and start clomid the after your last shot. Keep in mind, if the dbol gives you problems pull the plug on the winny as they are both 17AA. Just be sure to run 1000mg/day of ALA or Milk Thistle while using them...and drink plenty of water. Good work bro and good luck.

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    Thanks guys. The reason I was going to run both d-bol and winny is that even though this is a kind of bulking cycle i do not want to pack on a winter layer. I still want to have my cuts. I just figured that d-bol would make me look a little to watery. Course the EQ might help. I'll get the clomid and nolvadex. What if I cut out the winny and tried maybe an ECA stack and clenbuterol. I am not really educated much on this but maybe ya'll can help. First cycle you know everybody wants to get it right the first time.

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    If you are looking to shed some of the unwanted chub towards the end of the cycle, clen/ECA is a good choice (the armidex will take care of any bloating to would incure during the cycle). The winny is great at keeping your strength and promoting a lean vascular look but really won't aid in fat loss. If you run an ECA-clen stack I would suggest something like this:

    Day 1 clen - 1 tab, add 1 tab per day until you reach 7 tabs per day. Remain at 7 tabs/day until 2 weeks is up and switch to ECA. After two weeks of ECA, switch back to clen (you can start again at 7 tabs/day...no need to ramp back up). The total cycle will look like
    2 weeks clen, 2 weeks ECA, 2 weeks clen, 2 weeks ECA, 2 weeks clen

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    Could you please elaborate on this ECA. Like I said I am not as educated on this. Would the clen/ECA be a completely seperate cutting cycle. Perhaps something I can start in say May for the summer? Or can I do this at the end of a AS cycle?

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    id go with the winny at the end of the cycle
    clenbuterol and eca(effedrine,caffine,aspirin) can be taken anytime!
    the winny will get you on clomid faster.jmo

    by the way bro how do you plan on doing 400 mg wk of omna,if it comes in 250 mg amps,just curious!

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