Tren ace, good or bad idea???

[DS21]

I'm 25, 240lbs 15% bf been lifting for about 7yrs.

My questions are regarding Tren ace. I keep reading that it is the best steroid when used with Test, but it almost sounds as if the side effects make it not worth using, at least that is what I am getting out of reading some of these threads. I am using 500mgs of test prop a wk and just about to finish with 300mgs of winny a wk. I am now 6 weeks into my cycle and wanted to add tren ace for the last 6-10 wks.

My questions are, what is the least amount you would recommend for a first timer using tren a week, and what is the least amount of time you would use it?

I was only planning on going 12 weeks but if needed I can make it 16 which would give me 9 or 10 wks on tren, or should I just use it for the finally 6 and stick to my original 12 wk cycle?

Thanks,

[NATE0406]

is this your first cylce??

[DS21]

Sorry, Yes

[kick6]

I've heard of people going as low as 37.5mg ED, and still getting good results. Personally, when I do tren ace/test prop I run 100mg of each EOD.

Just read that its your first cycle. You should grow like a weed on test alone. There's no need to suffer the shitty sides of tren until you NEED it....if you catch my drift.

[NATE0406]

yeah bro leave the tren out. just go with the test. add the tren in on some future cycle.

[shifty_git]

Leave it for this cycle.

And also ideally you need to run test a little past the tren to make recovery a little easier.

If you interested in adding something to ya next cycle try npp.

Will prepare you for 19nor sides.

[DS21]

I understand what you are saying.

I've taken an oral 19norandro supplement at 180mgs a day and couldn't sleep and had alittle anxiety, so I can only imagain what it would be like to take tren at 100mgs a day. That is why I wanted to see what the least amount I could use and still see descent gains. I will more then likely hold off untill I feel more comfortable taking it.

Thanks again

[Ashop]

I've heard of people going as low as 37.5mg ED, and still getting good results. Personally, when I do tren ace/test prop I run 100mg of each EOD.

Just read that its your first cycle. You should grow like a weed on test alone. There's no need to suffer the shitty sides of tren until you NEED it....if you catch my drift.

i worked with a guy who made crazy gains on low dose TEST and 37.5mg TREN EOD

[Scorp79]

You guys think Tren alone will produce some gains?

Like 75mg EOD for 4-5 weeks......

[NATE0406]

You guys think Tren alone will produce some gains?

Like 75mg EOD for 4-5 weeks......

start your own thread bro. and dont run tren alone....do some research and you will see why.

[kick6]

You guys think Tren alone will produce some gains?

Like 75mg EOD for 4-5 weeks......

The first time I ran Tren I ran it alone because of all the horror stories about how much WORSE the side effects get stacked with test. I ran 80mg EOD, and it was easily the least productive cycle I've ever run.