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    Summer cutter/hardener

    Decided to run a little something something over the summer
    Anavar 40mg ED 1-10
    Primo 500mg/week 1-12

    PCT Nolva + Novadex XT Weeks 13-15?

    Whatcha think?

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    what do you weigh bro???...primo isnt worth it unless its 800-1000 mgs...IMO

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    i agree. everyone i know that uses it recomends 1 gram

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmax View Post
    what do you weigh bro???...primo isnt worth it unless its 800-1000 mgs...IMO
    Agreed, I'd replace the Primo with Test P. 100mg EOD
    i'm on 125 mg EOD and doing great.

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    Those are some weak doses of those really expensive drugs...I wouldn't bother. I would bet anything you would make better gains on superdrol than 500mg of primo and 40mg of var. Masteron works similar to primo and it is a lot cheaper. You could do something like masteron and tbol. For lean gains it's probably the best for your mone ythats similar to what you seem to want to do. However, I would just do a low dose of test and 100mg eod of tren for a cutter....atleast thats what I want to do. With the tren you can lean up and gain a little bit on a low calorie diet.

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    I'm 208lbs right now, all natty never ran anything so thats why I'm thinking a lighter dosage

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    Wow you guys are right on the money.

    Advise a newbe to run 1g of premo is spot on.

    First off this is his first cycle and dont know how he will react to the compounds.

    2. Being his first cycle he does not need high does to see results.

    3. primo does not need to be run at 1g a week. It is a slow acting compounds that takes time to show results just like var.

    4. 500mg primo and 280 var a week totals 780mg a week for a first cycle. That is more then enough to lean down and harden up.

    5. The compounds are there to assist with the cutting. We all know or should know that diet and training is the key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T3/T4 GSR View Post
    Those are some weak doses of those really expensive drugs...I wouldn't bother. I would bet anything you would make better gains on superdrol than 500mg of primo and 40mg of var. Masteron works similar to primo and it is a lot cheaper. You could do something like masteron and tbol. For lean gains it's probably the best for your mone ythats similar to what you seem to want to do. However, I would just do a low dose of test and 100mg eod of tren for a cutter....atleast thats what I want to do. With the tren you can lean up and gain a little bit on a low calorie diet.
    He is trying to avoid acne since he is prone to it.

    Mast works like winny not primo.

    Tren first cycle smart.

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    no idea it was his first cycle. He has been here a long time and just the wau he said run a little somthing for the summer. I assumed he did stuff before.

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    [QUOTE=Gsxxr;3979689]Wow you guys are right on the money.

    Advise a newbe to run 1g of premo is spot on.

    First off this is his first cycle and dont know how he will react to the compounds.

    2. Being his first cycle he does not need high does to see results.

    3. primo does not need to be run at 1g a week. It is a slow acting compounds that takes time to show results just like var.

    4. 500mg primo and 280 var a week totals 780mg a week for a first cycle. That is more then enough to lean down and harden up.

    5. The compounds are there to assist with the cutting. We all know or should know that diet and training is the key.[/QUOTE]

    Agreed. I've seen numerous times experienced users still recommend using just Test as their first cycle, even if they are trying to keep lean. With proper diet, you can bulk AND lean on test. For what he would spend on effective doses of Var and Primo, he could afford his first, and second cycle of Test plus ancillaries! He could throw in light dose of AI to keep bloat since trying to lean out, or like myself add Proviron. I'll let the experienced users chime in though.... good luck with your first cycle when you make your decision!

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    [QUOTE=jeffefrijoles;3979708]
    Quote Originally Posted by Gsxxr View Post
    Wow you guys are right on the money.

    Advise a newbe to run 1g of premo is spot on.

    First off this is his first cycle and dont know how he will react to the compounds.

    2. Being his first cycle he does not need high does to see results.

    3. primo does not need to be run at 1g a week. It is a slow acting compounds that takes time to show results just like var.

    4. 500mg primo and 280 var a week totals 780mg a week for a first cycle. That is more then enough to lean down and harden up.

    5. The compounds are there to assist with the cutting. We all know or should know that diet and training is the key.[/QUOTE]

    Agreed. I've seen numerous times experienced users still recommend using just Test as their first cycle, even if they are trying to keep lean. With proper diet, you can bulk AND lean on test. For what he would spend on effective doses of Var and Primo, he could afford his first, and second cycle of Test plus ancillaries! He could throw in light dose of AI to keep bloat since trying to lean out, or like myself add Proviron. I'll let the experienced users chime in though.... good luck with your first cycle when you make your decision!

    Yes but test will make his acne brake out. Also he can use a little help with fat burning. The var and primo will assist with that.

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    <3

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    Hey looks like someone is finally gonna man up...thata way.

    I like it...

    Don't leave yourself many options since you are deathfully afraid of acne..

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    i know, it sucks =( my only self-consciousness or whatever

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVTmuscle View Post
    i know, it sucks =( my only self-consciousness or whatever
    Can I give take ur virg...I mean give u the 1st shot

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    if you get acne that bad and all you really want to do is cut up then why not just go for some t-3 and clen along with a good diet and cardio. primo and var will not burn fat off you and personally i feel there almost useless unless your at least 13%

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    Diet>>>>>

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    Quote Originally Posted by senseicarr View Post
    Diet>>>>>
    whoa thanks budday!

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    7,600 posts does seem like a lot for a guy who has never cycled before. Anyway, I just did anavar at the tail end of a test e/eq cycled and absolutely loooooooved it. Got a lot stronger and leaned out considerably.

    If money isn't an object, I would use anavar in every cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadetreeJones View Post
    7,600 posts does seem like a lot for a guy who has never cycled before. Anyway, I just did anavar at the tail end of a test e/eq cycled and absolutely loooooooved it. Got a lot stronger and leaned out considerably.

    If money isn't an object, I would use anavar in every cycle.
    I've ran blue top GH and IGF, Clen, t-4, that stuff

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