IGF I (24-41)
IGF I (30-41)
IGF I (57-70)
IGF II (33-40)
IGF II (69-84)
Insulin-Like Growth [Tyr0] Factor II (33-40)
Is the first one worth twice as much as the second and third?
Are any of them of no use for research purposes?
IGF I (24-41)
IGF I (30-41)
IGF I (57-70)
IGF II (33-40)
IGF II (69-84)
Insulin-Like Growth [Tyr0] Factor II (33-40)
Is the first one worth twice as much as the second and third?
Are any of them of no use for research purposes?
First we need clarity in regards to IGF.
There are two types available to us via black market.
LR3 IGF-1
rIGF-1
To reiterate briefly on LR3 IGF-1. I've found it useless for muscle building purposes, but found it useful for cutting. Basically, LR3 IGF-1 is a potent glucose disposal agent which is a great tool while dieting. Thing is, when gropep altered IGF-1 to create LR3 IGF-1 they broke the protein chain to some extent and rendered it useless to building muscle as opposed to rIGF-1, which is in fact a clinically proven muscle builder. When chemists alter drugs, some become toxic, while others lose the effects of the mother drug.Other times when drugs are altered, they completely change names.In the case of LR3 IGF-1, it lost it';s muscle building abilities when altered.
With all the above said, I've known one person to use rIGF-1 with great success. Two issues arise bro. One is, it needs to be injected several times a day to be really effective. Secondly, you need to run higher doses for each injection, and in turn the rIGF-1 cycle can become pricey. IMO, I think you can achieve just as good results being consistant with high dose HGH while on your cycles. Down the road, possibly you might want to run a cycle to break through another barrier. Save the rIGF-1 as a trump card bro.
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the feedback. One of my main concerns is that I have BPH and don't want to jam myself up and am not in a position to consult with a doctor about how to manage BPH while using AAS and/or other muscle development enhancement products. Another factor is that I plan to procreate this year so don't want to interfere with my natural test production other than to enhance my own natural production rather than shut it down. This is why I'm looking at IGF and/or LR3 IGF and other peptides.
I am also concerned about avoiding intestine growth so am leaning towards IGF rather than the LR modification. I've heard it's not really too much of a risk so long as you keep peptide/hgh doses low/reasonable but want to air on the side of caution.
Regarding the several times a day injections, I had thought that IGF could have a benefit if injected immediately post workout of a muscle group, particularly if you really prime up the muscle with an intense workout in order to grow new muscle cells. I lift at home so can inject within a minute or two post workout. Is it really necessary to use mult times a day? I'd be looking to use IGF in conjunction with peg mgf or cjc. I am also considering using dianabol and/or deca as part of the cycle.
Not sure if Finasteride will be sufficient to avoid an further BPH or this in conjunction with something else?
I'm really looking to build a cycle without test and am not looking for immediate or huge gains but more long term steady lean muscle mass growth and decreased bf %. I'm 41 and looking to use reasonably safe products (or safe doses of newer products) to assist in this regard, not looking to get huge.
Last edited by 40plusnewbie; 05-20-2008 at 08:23 PM.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)