do u use them at the same time like pre contest or no?
do u use them at the same time like pre contest or no?
Last edited by Mbuffguy; 07-02-2008 at 06:20 PM.
you can if you want.
really i didn't know if u could take caffein with clen . but now that i think of it im sure fitness modles and pro BB do thanks nate
you do want to watch your caffein intake. but i know ppl who run eca and clen together (not reconmended). but i dont think it will really hurt.
you won't. btw ephedrine is much better
ephedra better than clen?
You should read this:
http://www.steroid.com/Clenbuterol.php
i have and i know bout clen i was asking bout otc fatburers
Ephedrine has been off the markets in the U.S. for ages, and its been off the market here in canada for at least a year now. Even pseudoephedrine (sudafed) is behind the counter now. Reason for that is
Methamphetamine = Desoxyephedrine
Red phosphorus + Iodine + Ephedrine = Desoxyephedrine
Now you know!
yeah ephedra was banned in us for awhile now
Actually, no. Ephedrine is sold behind any pharmacy counter, its just now regulated for sale amounts.
just googled it and got articles on it being banned i thought it was but who knows
It was taken off market shelves for awhile. The FDA couldn`t prove any related deaths to it so now they regulate it as vasopro and bronkaid behind most pharmacy counters (you just need an ID). It can still be used to make meth so they cant sell a ton of it at one time.
didnt know that i stay away from it anyway i had the hydroxycut with ephedra and i was like a crackwhore lol it was crazy, shaking and chest pains and stuff, rediculous
clen and ephedra are both beta-2 antagonist but the half life of clen is around 34hrs I believe and ephedra is 4hrs. Ive had much better results with the clen and il take some caffeine here and there.
Like said above, clen and ephedra use the same beta receptors. You don't want to run them at the same time. Pretty much the only otc fat burners are green tea.
You should read the clen profile in the steroid profiles section, and the ECA profile in the suppliments section.
im off cycle and im not gunna mess with T3
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