Adding Dbols and winnie to cycle??

[Ladies Man]

I am currently on my 7th week of test enth and EQ cycle.
Test enth 500 mg/week and EQ 400mg/week although i started out at lower doses. My question is this can i throw in Dbols and winnie tabs for about 4-5 weeks towards the end at reasonable doses such as d bols at 25-35/mg everday and winstrol at 50mg ed or eod.??? Thanks in advance

[T-Time619]

You could, or u could finish it of do ur PCT then DO it!

Up to you!

[Ladies Man]

after pct?? really? i never knew u could do that after pct. But if i was so to do it together including into my cycle would it be too liver toxic??

[T-Time619]

after pct?? really? i never knew u could do that after pct. But if i was so to do it together including into my cycle would it be too liver toxic??

well i mean, winstrol on its own is 17aa, meaning that its liver toxic taking it solo, so if u were to take other orals at the same time, it would only increase the risk of liver toxication!!!

I ALWAYS think SAFTEY FIRST!

But i mean depends what u want

Are u bulking, Cutting or strengthening!

[Ladies Man]

i actually wanna bulk clean. or should i just use either one of them just to be safe?? Currently i do wanna get bigger but i want lean mass and not much bloat. but i wouldnt mind being a little bloated from the d bols

[Ladies Man]

what u guys think?

[RaWRZ0R!]

well you can only choose one.. both of them are to hard on the liver so i wouldnt advise it..

[Ladies Man]

but to throw in new stuff towsrds the end is that feasible in the first place?

[duggadoo]

i would just follow your planned cycle but if i was to add something it would just be the winstrol at 50mg a day for 4-5 weeks (with a liver aid supp) because the dbol will bloat you up and the winstrol will be a good strength and harding agent to throw in because you are looking for less bloat but just my 2 cents

[XD40]

dont run it after the PCT! wat the hell kind of advice is that guys?!?! Personally, i would run the winni if you want to cut it up a little and get that hard look...espically if you have been running that EQ its all quality muscle that will get a great hard look..i would stay away from the dbol tho bkus that is gonna bloat you and hide that muslce slightly.

[Big]

dont run it after the PCT! wat the hell kind of advice is that guys?!?! Personally, i would run the winni if you want to cut it up a little and get that hard look...espically if you have been running that EQ its all quality muscle that will get a great hard look..i would stay away from the dbol tho bkus that is gonna bloat you and hide that muslce slightly.

I was wondering the same thing, maybe giving advice like that is why he's suspended lol.

[Ladies Man]

how should i take the winstrol tablets? split doses throughout the day?? Also would i get stronger and leaner on winstrol?? Also since its pills should i take a little higher doses than 50mg cause i heard that tablets are less effective than shots. By the way first time i am using winnie

[RaWRZ0R!]

yeah just go with winny. im about to hop on that and saving my 500 dbol tabs for next cycle.

[RaWRZ0R!]

well if you take 50 mg a day i would say 3 in the morning 2 late afternoon or evening

[RaWRZ0R!]

ill prob run 60 so 3 and 3

[Ladies Man]

how should i take the winstrol tablets? split doses throughout the day?? Also would i get stronger and leaner on winstrol?? Also since its pills should i take a little higher doses than 50mg cause i heard that tablets are less effective than shots. By the way first time i am using winnie

[Ladies Man]

by the way my tablets are 50 mg each

[XD40]

ya its slightly more toxic on your liver when compared to other compounds...get some milk thistle extract and start taking that now to prepare your liver and take it after the cycle...i know that when i ran some winni it fo sure took a toll on my liv.....it all depends on how your body reacts to the compound that will determine the strenght but you will for sure get lean and vascular. As for the dosage i really dont know man sorry ive never ran orals...im sure big or another experienced mind will help you with that.

[RaWRZ0R!]

i believe you lose 5-10% as another member stated on the boards.. just take milk thistle everyday and remember to have an AI standing by just in case

[XD40]

its always good to have an AI when on the juice but hes already on the 7th week of this cycle so hes prolly good in that aspect...he wouldnt need to buy another in addition to his PCT just for the winni bkus its an AI of sorts being a 17aa so it will lower estrogen..?

[XD40]

did some1 make a new account >???

[Big]

Marvelicious, T-Time, you were suspended for a reason.

[duggadoo]

xd40 i dont believe winstrol has any effect on estrogen because it 17aa thats just how they make it so it can with stand two passes through the liver and i dont think it effects estrogen at all since it is dht derived but correct me if im wrong on tis because it late and im very sleepy

[Big]

Does this have anything to do with steroids?

it has to do with the fact that your suspension is about to become a banned ip address.

[duggadoo]

get em BIG

[JC$]

Can some one help me out here

[Big]

What do u mean?

You have the same ip address lol

[duggadoo]

owned haha

[XD40]

duggado---you ARE correct man, 17aa is the alteration for passing threw the liver lol! i forgot what i was tyoing for a second...but yes, i have read somewhere that it has properties that aid in blocking or preventing estrogen...maby someone will correct me and make me wiser??

[XD40]

damn i called it 1st ! ahahaha got cha pal! (someone help this guy out on dosage for the oral winni we kinda hijacked this thread) SORRY BRO!

[duggadoo]

it has some anti-progestenic properties in some cases it may block receptor sites but i dont think actually estro receptor sites

[Big]

Sorry for the hijack. Personally with the cycle as listed I wouldn't add anything, with proper diet the test and eq should yield nice results. That's just me though. If you do wish to add the winny 50mg/day ed for the last 5 weeks should be fine.

[XD40]

bkus of your comments...lets just say im in a profession that trains me to pick up on that sort of thing.

[XD40]

JC$ listen to BIG man he knows his shit.....but i wish you luck in whatever you decide to do bro !

[duggadoo]

id say split the dose into quarters 50mg into 4s and space them with your meals throughout the day about 4-5 hours apart if no effect go to 75 mgs a day

[Big]

Yeah soz for the hijack!

Dont know why BIG is against me?

Stop hijacking the thread. You are too young to be here, you give bad advice, and you violated the rules by setting up multiple accounts after being suspended.

[duggadoo]

because your not aloud to have to accounts and you are breaking the rules by having two and you were suspended so that means you cant be on here until your suspension is lifted

[Ladies Man]

thanks for jacking my thread lol. would winne help me add on some pounds at least?

[duggadoo]

^^2xs

[Big]

thanks for jacking my thread lol. would winne help me add on some pounds at least?

Not really. I'm not a fan of winny, for the little bit it does, it makes my joints hurt so bad I can't train as hard. Just personal preference, but I would skip it.