d-bol pluss creatine

[world1]

Is it unwise to take creatine along side d-bol due to the increased water retention?

[redz]

Yes you will bloat alot with those 2 together. Also I hope you are looking at taking test with dbols.Dbol only is not a good cycle.

[smokeyd]

save the creatine for pct you will need it, thats what i have always heard and going to try it out this go round...

[JC$]

It also depends on what type of creatine you are looking to take.. from Personal experience Celltech is going to give you alot of water retention while cell mass will minimize it

[Whoisdaman]

Is supplementing creatine still effective? I haven't used that stuff since high school, 10 years ago. I do remember a heavy bloat so using with dbol probably wouldn't be the best idea... and please use a test with that dbol.

[butter]

i would stick to a test cyp with the d-bol or even better yet if u dont mind a shot every coulpe days move to a test prop,,,,,,,,

[troublesome]

you'll get some bloat but big deal, d-bol helps you pack on size and increases your strength gains and a good creatine like NO-X give you great workouts!! i dont go without it... think of the benifit of using both..
personally i take pre and post creatines everyday, and the crank i use is known for water retention too yet i've never been leaner (DIET!)

[Ashop]

Is it unwise to take creatine along side d-bol due to the increased water retention?

you can use it together. i like CREATINE best for OFF cycle edge.

[cfiler]

I've run it while on a cycle with no problem. Yeah, there is more bloating but that's not doesn't have to be a bad thing.

Afew years ago there was a study posted, I think it's called Retention Training, and it explained that the water weight in muscles can be usefull. (I'll see if I can find the post, and link to it.)

Basically it talked about how the muscles expanded with the water retention, but when the user shed the water weight he was able to maintain muscle size, as it was naturally filled in by his body.

[T_Own]

you'll get some bloat but big deal, d-bol helps you pack on size and increases your strength gains and a good creatine like NO-X give you great workouts!! i dont go without it... think of the benifit of using both..
personally i take pre and post creatines everyday, and the crank i use is known for water retention too yet i've never been leaner (DIET!)

is it just me that doesn't think no xplode is a good creatine?

i didn't bloat at all with cell tech.

[world1]

Ok so i#ve heard a lot of people saying d-bol alone is not good for a first cycle. Not that im scared of needles or anything but i'm concerned about side effects and so i'm cautious about taking test aswell as i'm worried about it haulting or reducing my natural testosterone production and many of the other side effects as well. Could use some advice on this as i have 5 weeks worth of d-bol and clomid for pct but hvnt started yet.

[AcePowerZ]

Dbol you have water retention creatine you have water retention so obviously yes bad idea.

[AcePowerZ]

if you are scared of needles you could think about going for an oral cycle the only thing is you will be in risk of damaging your liver. You will have to combat this will milk thistle and other liver detox. If your not scared of needles and are just worried about sides then try the test and keep your dosage low.