1st Time - Winny

[tigerfan18]

I have never used steroids before, but have a bottle of Winny on the way. The only problem is that I have been told/read tons of different ways to use it. As of right now I ONLY have the winny. I am a little over 5'10" 230 lbs. with a "o-lineman" build (meaning that I have a gut with extra bodyfat around my arms, thighs, and chest). I am looking to burn off at least 20 lbs. of fat if not more, but I want to keep the muscle that I have now. On previous diets, I have lost a lot of muscle to lose just 25 lbs. overall. I have been working out for over 6 years. At the moment, I workout 3 times a week (upper body only because I have tendonitis in both knees). I also do cardio 2-3 times a week (running and swimming). I need some advice on how to shred the extra fat and also some suggestions on the winny.

[Bulldog1115]

i got a suggestion: Sell that winni and buy:
dietrol 50mg/d
cardiotropin 4iu/eod
trainabol 50mg/d
OTC fat burner

reasons y u shouldnt:
1. no test u will be heavily shut down
2. even if u did use it, u woodnt burn any fat with the winni kus its not a fat burner but only a muscle hardener for people with already low BF percentages
3. u dont know anything bout it! RESEARCH!
4. it fuccks with ur cholestorol so much, im sure u have High Cholestorol as it is!
5. u have tendonitis in both knees, winni will triple that!
6. u dont know how diet, if u cant keep what u say is muscle!

What u should do:
1. cardio 7 days a week for an hour no excuses!
2. learn how to cut diet!
3. grab some caffeine pills!
4. did i mention learn to diet!?

[tigerfan18]

i got a suggestion: Sell that winni and buy:
dietrol 50mg/d
cardiotropin 4iu/eod
trainabol 50mg/d
OTC fat burner

reasons y u shouldnt:
1. no test u will be heavily shut down
2. even if u did use it, u woodnt burn any fat with the winni kus its not a fat burner but only a muscle hardener for people with already low BF percentages
3. u dont know anything bout it! RESEARCH!
4. it fuccks with ur cholestorol so much, im sure u have High Cholestorol as it is!
5. u have tendonitis in both knees, winni will triple that!
6. u dont know how diet, if u cant keep what u say is muscle!

What u should do:
1. cardio 7 days a week for an hour no excuses!
2. learn how to cut diet!
3. grab some caffeine pills!
4. did i mention learn to diet!?

As a matter of fact my cholestorol is fine (Even though lineman appear to be out of shape fattys, I was a pretty well conditioned athlete and yearly had my bp and cholestorol checked). Also, even following strict cutting diets that claim to allow you to keep muscle, I still lose a lot of strength and feel tired all of the time.

That said, I am giving a new cutting diet a try and am still deciding what the hell to do with that winny (It will be hard to sell it, and doesn't selling it make me a drug dealer?) As for the OTC Fat Burners, what would you recommend? I have tried Lipo6X and Adipo X. Liked the Lipo6 100% more than the AdipoX, but the effects seemed to taper off sooner than it said on the bottle.

[G4R]

You don't have to sell it, but you shouldn't use it either. Like all the other posts have said, you need to get you diet in check. Check out the diet forum on here and post a diet and get it critiqued by the members here. You should get some great feedback from them, and make sure to let them know what your goals are. But at 18, you are too young yet for AAS, you have too many natural years left in you.

Good luck and BE CAREFUL

[Big]

considering you are 18, you should not use steroids yet. when you are ready, winny only is not a good cycle, and against popular belief winny does not burn fat. proper diet and exercise should be all you need to meet your goals.

[stallion_1]

Sell the winny to some asshole with low body fat.
And then make an appoiment to have liposuction

[Banelord]

holy we are pretty nasty today? LOL

[peachfuzz]

i have low bodyfat. you should give me the winny to hold untill you do too!

[tigerfan18]

Thanks. How long will that winny stay "good" if I can keep it in a cool dry place?

[tigerfan18]

Well, I may not be able to get rid of the winny, but may be able to instead get some anavar. I have done a little bit of research, but would still like some "expert adivce". Would a low dose of Anavar with proper PCT be any safer than the winny? Also, I have read that it will actualy burn fat. Is this just in people with low bf%?

[mkrulic]

you are on a mild cycle right now. your hormones are in overdrive and taking anavar or winny can end this. I know people who started at your age and are impotient now. diet and excersize is all you need

[wmrebel]

Every reply i see made by Stallion is a flaming comment and uncalled for. He's here for help not for you to be an ass. Try helping every once in awhile instead of flaming everyone.

[MercyDog]

tiger using any of these pills will take all your natural test out of your body making it worse than before you started. you need test with it and to wait

[Bulldog1115]

dude ... u can take every drug in the fuccking planet dude without D & C they mean shit!..so get the perfected before u turn to drugs!...those drugs will put lil muscle under layers of fat?...whats the point of that? dude, go to this website www.stronglifts.com ...do powerlifts and lots of cardio with a good diet!..much better results then doing winni or any other drug

[one8nine]

winny will hurt your tendonitis worse.
at a bodyfat of 15%+ (thats still pushing it) steroids will hurt you more than help