Low T after PCT

[Dekuni]

12 WEEK CYCLE

Test 400: 600mg/wk for weeks 1-12
Deca: 300mg/wk for weeks 1-10

4 WEEK PCT
Clomid: 50/50/50/50

Got blood results back last week for my test levels, and I sit at 327. The range was 340-1100.

What do yall think? Not enough PCT? This is my second cycle, had zero problems with the first.

My sex drive is also very very low, and it is hard to maintain an erection. This is a little scary!

I am supposed to go back for blood tests in December. If my T is still low, they are giving me a prescription. I honestly hope I just recover and get back to normal.

Thanks in advance,
-Dekuni

[Gutetime30]

Hey bud I know I am new, but I honestly think a solid shutdown recovery cycle could help! Use hcg for a week or two (blast it!) then run clomid/nolva for 4 weeks. I am in the same situation you are in! Do alot of research and figure out the best dose for your body! I had blood work done and my test level was 101!!!! Have your doctor monitor you while you attempt to fix yourself! Good luck!

[AsEpSiS]

to the OP....how long ago did you finish pct? It can take awhile for natural T production to get back up to speed. Did you have bloodwork done before your cycle to see what your "norm" really is? Also, was this your first time using a 19nor (deca)?

[Vpunishment]

Question... What are the high and low level of testosterone for average male, and what measurement do they use?

[beafcake]

Question... What are the high and low level of testosterone for average male, and what measurement do they use?

depends on what doctor you see as to what is normal. I have been to a doctor that told me 250-750 is normal and then a different doctor telling me 350-900 is acceptable with 500-600 being average

[beafcake]

And as far as the clomid only pct for that cycle i would say that wasn't enough, might be why your having trouble coming back

[Vpunishment]

Have you ever asked your doctor what is noraml for women? just curious....

depends on what doctor you see as to what is normal. I have been to a doctor that told me 250-750 is normal and then a different doctor telling me 350-900 is acceptable with 500-600 being average

[beafcake]

Have you ever asked your doctor what is noraml for women? just curious....

Sorry, I have not

[Vpunishment]

Not a problem, just my curious mind...

Sorry, I have not

[Dekuni]

Hey guys, I'm going back to get my bloodwork done in two weeks. The good news is, I can tell that my libido is coming back. It's decent, but not where I was before cycle. Maybe I am just slow to recover? I can't wait to see what my new test levels are. I think that is what is causing all of this. At the time, even when I could get an erection, I hardly had any sensation during sex. It was like if my dick were numb, and I could never get horny! It ****ing sucked!

[ANIMAL]

A lot of it has to do in your mind. People tend to skip over this, but it plays a huge part.

Not sure why nolvadex wasn't used in PCT, did you use an AI or HCG during cycle? How are your estrogen levels? Yea your test levels are low, but estrogen plays a big role as well. I highly suggest telling your doctor to write you a script to get full blood results of the following:

T4
Free Thyroxine
TSH
T3 uptake
T3, total
Free T3
FT4 index
Thyroid Peroxidase

glucose

FSH
LH

dhea-sulfate
prolactin
progesterone
estradiol

Testosterone , total
Free Testosterone

igf -1
Sex Hormone Binding Glob

[AsEpSiS]

I also had the "numb" wang feeling too. How long after pct did it take for yours to return to normal?

[HardCorps84]

been 3 weeks since ending my pct protocol and still my libido is lacking and have minimal sensation when hard seems to only be at 80% ****ing sucks.

going to get bloodwork this week.

[Dekuni]

Update:

FREE TESTOSTERONE(DIRECT): My Value=8.6 Standard Range=9.3 - 26.5

TESTOSTERONE, SERUM: My Value=389 Standard Range=348 - 1197

Someone please give me some input. I am seeing my Endo this week so I can discuss things. I was open with her and she knows about the situation.

I still have a good amount of liquidex on hand. I finished my cycle this summer. Would the AI help at this point in helping to restore my test levels quicker? If there are any questions please let me know, and any advice would be appreciated. I still have the low libido and erectile dysfunction. It really sucks.

[Dekuni]

It is in my best interest to also mention that I've had a lot of things checked (looking back now at my older test results from September) and everything was fine. However, there are no tests on my estrogen levels. It would ALSO be in my best interest to check those as well, as that could be what's ****ing me up.

[ReverendNewman]

Dude, don't have a meltdown. It'll come back. That's what everyone up here told me and they were right. After PCT, it took me a about a month. I didn't have ED, just low libido. I just didn't want to hook up with my GF. I was still able to "pop" at some good granny porn though. Go figure. LOL

[largerthannormal]

so far you havent taken anyones advice, you did a weak pct and hcg wasnt used thru cycle ( not that HCG is the main cause but a great way to prevent)

get a full blood panel as Animal suggested, there are many on this site who are just as if not more knowledgable than most endos when it comes to this.

If you want help, post everything. ( the pros will take a look if you ask)

[Dekuni]

Yep PCT was weak for sure. I'm using HCG from now on, my buddy didn't mention it to me until after I was done with this one. I did my first cycle with no problems, it was this last one that shut me down. I've learned the hard way and will advise anyone to have a great PCT, and have done more research. I have half the stuff Animal listed already done, it's just the Test that's on the low side. The estrogen levels for me need to be checked, as I think that could may as well be part of the situation.

Thanks for the advice, any and all is appreciated.

-Dekuni