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[G-Force]

i orderd some stuff from lion and after paying didnt hear anything from him

after about 2 weeks i sent him an email and it seems they have stopped shipping over seas OK FINE

but why not notify people instead of keeping quiet
why not put a notice on the site?

why are they still accepting money for overseas orders and keeping quiet about it

ANYWAY i eventually was offered a refund
and the other day when i checked my bacnk account it has become apparent
that he has refunded me £8 less than what i paid
i only noticed 6 months later when going through my statements for tax purposes

after emailing him i was shcocked by his response

"We refunded the most we could on the card.> > Why has it taken you 6 months to address this?
> > That seems fishy to me.>"

after explaining that i had only just gone through my statements to fill out my tax form he replies with a couple of words saying something like we refunded the most we could

NO EXPLANATION no nothing

i have since sent him several emails over the last week asking what he means and where my £8 has gone


NO REPLY

I am shocked by this guys attitude, lack of customer care and business ethics
no explanation has been offered and he even accused me of being "fishy"

i even offered to make copies of my bank statements proving the error but alas no response


SITUATION TAKEN CARE OFread on...

[anabollocks]

Agreed. I ordered about $180 worth of stuff, never heard a word again until I emailed a month later asking where my stuff was, he then said hes having shipping problems and he will refund. He asks me for my partial credit card details and order # so he can track down the order and refund it. I send him the details and get no refund and no reply.

[G-Force]

are we going to continue to let this guy be a sponser for this otherwise great forum

more opions??????

[BG]

Try an admin.

[DSM4Life]

Is that 14 bucks ?

[G-Force]

Is that 14 bucks ?

its about that muc yeah

but the fact that it is a small amount isnt really the point it

its the fact that he has done it and has no intention of putting it right

and what about anabollix - he has just stated he lost 180 dollars from him

[VWbug66]

yeah, I think we should atleat be able to give other research chem's website's on here..its not like lion is the best and the only one.we should be able to share other sites to go through OPENLY on threads

[G-Force]

i think lion owes me and a lot of other people a VERY good explanation

it was 6 months ago i attempted an order to the UK

why is he still accepting money from overseas customers if he isnt shipping them

there is no excuse for this other than mal- practice

[PT]

i think you should of brought this up 6 months ago personally. im not lion and i dont know how he runs his bizz but personally i wouldnt think he would still have your records 6 months later so how can he say he made a mistake? dont you keep bank records? i know every dollar in every one of my accounts.

[BG]

$14 is $14, if it happened with a hundred people thats.....?

[39+1]

Ive had problems before but he has always delivered the guy get busy. I doubt youve been taken

[G-Force]

i think you should of brought this up 6 months ago personally. im not lion and i dont know how he runs his bizz but personally i wouldnt think he would still have your records 6 months later so how can he say he made a mistake? dont you keep bank records? i know every dollar in every one of my accounts.

bro please read what i said again

i only checked my statement 6 months later while doing my end of year tax return

i did say this several times and offered to send him copies as proof

why have you brought up this extremely moot point when theyre are other more important issue at hand here

1. why is there no warning on his site that he is not shipping over seas?

2 why does he not send an email out to the person in question once the overseas customer has made his payment (this has happened to several people not just me and anabolix)

3 - why has he refunded me the wrong amount?

4 - why has he offered me no explanation after weeks of emails being ignored?

5 - why has annabolix receive no emails and no refund from his $180?

[facile]

Just a thought but could the $14 dollar difference be attributed to currency fluctuation? exchange rates are variable and a refund of usd dollars today may not be equal to the english pd several months ago.

Not saying for sure but quite possible.

[SmittyTheOX]

Just a thought but could the $14 dollar difference be attributed to currency fluctuation? exchange rates are variable and a refund of usd dollars today may not be equal to the english pd several months ago.

Not saying for sure but quite possible.

Actually thats a real possibility.

I know here in aus the exchange rate for the us is now a lot weaker then it was 6 months ago.

[G-Force]

Actually thats a real possibility.

I know here in aus the exchange rate for the us is now a lot weaker then it was 6 months ago.

no

the refund was done a week a two later

i only noticed the difference 6 months later

there is no way the exchange rate couldve dropped that much in a week

even if it did that doesnt explain the other matters on hand here

[anabollocks]

I sent him another email yesterday and he told me "I re-sent your info to the person that does the refunds...you will get it."

i'll update if anything changes

[DSM4Life]

I wasn't saying he was petty by the amount, i was just asking.

When it comes to money and giving it to someone i don't know i would be upset to. Listen this is a business, i don't care if he owed you a dollar it should have been paid in a reasonable time. Mind you, you did wait a long time to email him but anybody in the business should have saw this :

Option 1: Ignore him and hope he goes away. If not he could potentially spread negative word of mouth which might also lead to me losing him as a customer. Being that my business thrives off word of mouth, i am taking a chance here.

Option 2: Pay him ASAP and no one will know about this. Not only will i keep this guy as a happy customer but i will also have him spread positive word of mouth (advertising) for only 14 bucks (14 bucks that was rightfully his in the begin with).

Seems like it should have been an easy decision.

[PT]

bro please read what i said again

i only checked my statement 6 months later while doing my end of year tax return

i did say this several times and offered to send him copies as proof

why have you brought up this extremely moot point when theyre are other more important issue at hand here

1. why is there no warning on his site that he is not shipping over seas?

2 why does he not send an email out to the person in question once the overseas customer has made his payment (this has happened to several people not just me and anabolix)

3 - why has he refunded me the wrong amount?

4 - why has he offered me no explanation after weeks of emails being ignored?

5 - why has annabolix receive no emails and no refund from his $180?

back up bro. i personally have no clue what lion thinks or how he runs his bizz, i was just saying that you should of got back to him 6 months prior to discuss your $14. everyone gets bank statements, whether paper or online we all get them. as for him not shipping, i agree he should have that posted on his web page. im not sticking up for him or putting him down im just stating how i feel

[RUI-Products]

G-FORCE....check your PM's


-LION

[G-Force]

ok thanks Lion

well just to update Lion has apologised and offered me a research chem of my choice free of charge so i am prepared to accept his apology and let the matter drop

G-Force,

First off, let me apologize for the hassle this has been for you. We still have been doing international orders up until this point, since customs is causing us so many problems AND in order to catch up with some of these back issues.
We haven't been ignoring you. We had to talk to the accountant and others in the company about what to do about this situation. We no longer have your credit card info on file so we can not refund you the remainder.

AGAIN, i apologize for the trouble you've had. I'm not sure why you were short changed on your refund, but regardless, it is our priority to make it up to you. Can i offer you a COmpletley FREE shippment of a research chemical of your choice. This request has been put on high priority within our shipping department. Send me a PM with the chem of your choice, and i'll send it to them ASAP

[Kale]

So this is all news to me. I just ordered some sterile vials two weeks ago and I am in Singapore. I am wondering if I will get these at all.



Lion...Could you please repond to me on this???

[kal_el]

ok thanks Lion

well just to update Lion has apologised and offered me a research chem of my choice free of charge so i am prepared to accept his apology and let the matter drop

G-Force,

First off, let me apologize for the hassle this has been for you. We still have been doing international orders up until this point, which we will be taking offline for the next month or so, since customs is causing us so many problems AND in order to catch up with some of these back issues.
We haven't been ignoring you. We had to talk to the accountant and others in the company about what to do about this situation. We no longer have your credit card info on file so we can not refund you the remainder.

AGAIN, i apologize for the trouble you've had. I'm not sure why you were short changed on your refund, but regardless, it is our priority to make it up to you. Can i offer you a COmpletley FREE shippment of a research chemical of your choice. This request has been put on high priority within our shipping department. Send me a PM with the chem of your choice, and i'll send it to them ASAP

I was in the same situation - had ordered clen but they could not ship to UK. Was ok because i got a full refund (was not short at all).

G-Force - are you able to put a couple of bottles of clen in your order for me - i can pay you via PAYPAL and cover the fees

[BG]

Very nice, taken care of.

[WOLFCRAFT]

I love happy endings.

[BG]

I love happy endings.

Especially after a good hot oil massage!!!!!!!!!Chinese girls have such small hands.

[DSM4Life]

I love happy endings.

[39+1]

i think lion owes me and a lot of other people a VERY good explanation

it was 6 months ago i attempted an order to the UK

why is he still accepting money from overseas customers if he isnt shipping them

there is no excuse for this other than mal- practice

dude the guy gets busy settle the f down he will give you your money back or youll get your stuff read thru the string and you se that everyone is catered too

[mbowen]

Hey guys I'm new here, doing a research project on winstrol. Need to get my hands on some for testing, but emails to lion at ar-r come back undelivered. If someone could PM me his contact info or whatever that would be cool, or any other leads/advice would be much appreciated,

I don't trust ANY of those websites... send a wire transfer to eastern europe? ya right!

[Mbuffguy]

Please pm me with your situation....

[Coop77]

Hey guys I'm new here, doing a research project on winstrol. Need to get my hands on some for testing, but emails to lion at ar-r come back undelivered. If someone could PM me his contact info or whatever that would be cool, or any other leads/advice would be much appreciated,

I don't trust ANY of those websites... send a wire transfer to eastern europe? ya right!

Uh, I don't think he sells winstrol.

[AdamGH]

Hey guys I'm new here, doing a research project on winstrol. Need to get my hands on some for testing, but emails to lion at ar-r come back undelivered. If someone could PM me his contact info or whatever that would be cool, or any other leads/advice would be much appreciated,

I don't trust ANY of those websites... send a wire transfer to eastern europe? ya right!

you have no clue what you are talking about do you? http://www.ar-r.com/ does not sell steroids.

[Hitman]

Especially after a good hot oil massage!!!!!!!!!Chinese girls have such small hands.

Tell me about it...It makes my 7 inch look like frickin python with there tiny hands on it.

[G-Force]

dude the guy gets busy settle the f down he will give you your money back or youll get your stuff read thru the string and you se that everyone is catered too

READ THE FCKING THREAD JACK @SS

u say this after the matter has been resolved and lion admitted he was in the wrong

what a total retard you are

[DSM4Life]

READ THE FCKING THREAD JACK @SS

u say this after the matter has been resolved and lion admitted he was in the wrong

what a total retard you are

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[*Admin*]

Agreed. I ordered about $180 worth of stuff, never heard a word again until I emailed a month later asking where my stuff was, he then said hes having shipping problems and he will refund. He asks me for my partial credit card details and order # so he can track down the order and refund it. I send him the details and get no refund and no reply.

Please pm me all info on this... I will check into it...

thanks

[Jacquesvw]

I've ordered $245.00 worth of stuff from them on 4 Aug, but still nothing has arrived and they are not replying my emails.

I've send Admin a PM...

[*Admin*]

I am checking on this for you... .

[Jacquesvw]

I am checking on this for you... .

Thanks so much!

[Banelord]

he told me I will get a refund 30 days from aug 11, well today is the 29 so maybe it one day early, but no refund. NO Product and a fake tracking number.
If I do not get a refund soon, I will call Visa and get a charge back. Then report him for mail fraud so Visa will not do business with him anymore.

[bodybuilder1107]

i got all of my pins from them but they gave me attitude in emails because i kept bugging them because i paid for the 2-3 day shipping and i got them a week and a half later