First Cycle Advice

[BorisRoid]

A bit of info about myself first.

28yrs, 200lbs, 8-10% bf.

Training for about 4 years.

Diet followed, high protein/mod fat/carb cycled

I've been taking it easy with the weights (as in not adding weights but increasing reps) for about 1/2 a year now simply because I suffered a minor slip disc about 6 months ago and during this time I saw a chiro who made things much better.

Full Squat - 315 x 12
Floor DL - 405 x 12
Incline Bench - 225 x 12

and no issues with pain thank god.

I've done a lot of reading and understand the issues involved with oral only cycles so I would appreciate it if no one repeats "pin yourself with test" again

I'm really only looking for lean gains here and whatever size I get at my low dosage I'd be happy with. What I fear most is test shut down. Hair line is really sensitive and at a higher bf, gyno becomes slightly obvious (or so I'm told) At my bf now, no signs of gyno at all.


Week 1 - 6 - (10mg T-Bol + 10mg Anavar) x 2/day 12hrs inbetween.

Week 6 - 8 - (10mg T-Bol + 10mg Anavar) x 1/day + 20mg Novadex x 2/day

Week 8 - 10 - 20mg Novadex x 1/day

Week 10 - 12 - Cruise (probably suppliment with milk thistle)

If this works well and I hope it does I'll repeat the above (wk 13) but increase the dosage 10mg for both T-Bol and Anavar.

Any thoughts? Btw I have access to liquidex (1mg/ml) and Letrozole (2.5mg/ml). Perhaps either of this instead of novadex?

tks.

["Maximus"]

Sorry to burst your buble mate, but you need Test (in any of its form) as a base! That's the most basic, elemental rule when dealing w/AAS.

Also, you're doing pretty well natty so far... if you're afraid of pinning ED, EOD, or 2x week or whatever schedule, AAS is not for you friend! If you're going to do this, do it right from day one.

Sorry for overlooking your "pin yourself with test" comment above.

goodluck

[wickid1111]

just do the tbol by itself.

[redz]

Oral cycles are a waste.

[legobricks]

that cycle is a total waste of time and money. The doses are way to low to achieve anything IMHO. U have to understand that var is very weak AAS and tbol at 20mg per day isnt much better. The results your looking for could be achieved off an 8 week prop cycle. Really for any size/muscle mass gain injectables are the way to go. If your really goign to go oral only which isnt bad, go var but up the dose, start off at 40mg and up it to 60-80mg per day. See where that leaves you off, run it for 8 weeks. Still the results wont be that outstanding.

this is the second oral only stack ive seen today......