1st cycle test e and winny

[in2shape]

just waiting on getting my bf% down b4 i start my 1st cycle which is test e 5oomg/ew 10weeks ... i know the norm around here is 1 compound 4 1st cycle as a general rule of thumb eg test e or cyp however ive read in another post finishing off with winny could be beneficial coz of its synergistic effects with test starting winny at week 6 - 10 ....

question is could i run this 4 1st cycle (the winny on the end ) with the test

if so at what dosages ?

And is the general nolva pct 40 week 1 20 week 2,3,4 etc ok

have put up stats diet pct etc on this board and others b4 so just the winny question thanks

cheers

in2

[god-send]

weeks 1-12 500mgs test e every week

weeks 8-14 50mgs winny every day

start pct day after last winny shot/tab

pct-nolva /clomid .

nolva 20/20/20/20

clomid 50/50/25/25

have an ai on hand for bloat and gyno problems-adex

start at .25mgs every other day if any of the above problems are seen

[in2shape]

weeks 1-12 500mgs test e every week

weeks 8-14 50mgs winny every day

start pct day after last winny shot/tab

pct-nolva /clomid .

nolva 20/20/20/20

clomid 50/50/25/25

have an ai on hand for bloat and gyno problems-adex

start at .25mgs every other day if any of the above problems are seen

bro only can get nolva .. im from australia cant get shit over here at least i cant anyway, but i have plenty of nolva ... heard this can help if bloat gets to much whilst on plus 4 gyno?????

my only other option is hit up my local doc and just feed him all sorts of shit and stories in the hope of getting adex and others

also i have 2 x 250mg/ml test e bottles so can only run test e for 10 weeks @500 could i do the winny at your dosages say week 5-10???

thanks 4 the reply ; )

[god-send]

nolva will do nothing for bloat-it will combat gyno but its know to hinder gains while useing it on cycle.

you can run the winny 5-10 but as i stated would be better imo as running the winny in the 2 week break upto pct will keep the gains comeing .

i dont think the doc will give you clomid and adex bud

[in2shape]

nolva will do nothing for bloat-it will combat gyno but its know to hinder gains while useing it on cycle.

you can run the winny 5-10 but as i stated would be better imo as running the winny in the 2 week break upto pct will keep the gains comeing .

i dont think the doc will give you clomid and adex bud

so ill run the winny 8-12 then seem im doin a 10 weeker and start nolva pct after last shot of the winny yeah ???

trying to be optimistic bro .... my thinking is if i go into the doc and just bung it on him saying im bloating up help me ive made a terrible mistake joke/lol in using steroids fix me i need clomid 4 my nuts back, hcg to, and whilst your there adex, roflmao !!!! if only it was that easy but you get the jist of it put it on him and hope 1 comes good even if i have to go to 20 doctors surely 1 of them will cough up 1 of the above 3 .....

lucky we got medicare and doc visits are free !!!!

nolva pct will be ok tho right ??obviously the others would help but i could still run cycle ???

if i eat heaps clean and watch diet this will help with bloat 2

thanks again