d-bol and suspension cycle

[wcfd]

whats the take on this combo!!! looking to really bulk up with it!!!

[redz]

Suspension has to be injected daily at minimum if not twice per day for optimum stability in blood concentrations. Why dbol/suspension? The only reason I see to take something as painful as suspension would be if you are in tested sports.

[wcfd]

just reading some good stuff on it and how quik it will work!! used cyp for 10 weeks with little effect!!

[redz]

cyp for 10 weeks with little effects? you had bunk gear or your diet and training were off. Lay out your diet and stats.

[wcfd]

5'11
190
13%bf

[Freakish]

bro i definitely dont suggest susp for bulking!

[redz]

Test E or Test C is best for bulking but if you had no results with Test C then something was wrong lay out your diet.

[Freakish]

Test E or Test C is best for bulking but if you had no results with Test C then something was wrong lay out your diet.

agreed! either that or your gear was fake

[wcfd]

4 eggs morning with wheat toast .protien shake
10 am shake

[jstraw428]

If you can keep the injection frequency up, (2x daily) you can put a lot of mass on with suspension....That is the only test my buddy uses and he is a freaking monster(but his diet and training are spot on).....

[wcfd]

sorry guys at work so having to watch over my back for peepers!!! didnt mean to cut off my diet

[redz]

Well then lay it out.... I`m sure the diet is the problem as the breakfast you listed isnt even great.

[wcfd]

may diet is def. lacking and i know this!! i know alot of you are big on diet first and believe i understand you have to eat to gain and surrport muscle!!

[jstraw428]

It is all about the DIET bro.....if you eat like crap, you will look like crap.......I truely believe that Diet is about 80% of how you look.....

[jstraw428]

Type out your diet on something like word, or word perfect....then just cut and paste here....that way you can give us the complete diet at once, and no one at your work will think anything...

[wcfd]

i know diet is forsure the problem redz!! ill go back to diet thread and read up !!! any good advice on it though would help !! thanks

[wcfd]

good idea

[wcfd]

4 eggs and toast with 44 grams protein shake
10 am 44 gram shake and a snack of jerky or something
Lunch some type of chicken or tuna with rice or potato
Another shake around 3 or so
Supper around 6 with low carb with either chicken or fish
Another shake before bed!!!

I know this is kinda generic and plain but is what I try to do ,,it don’t always work out and I do slip up on weekends and stuff!! So please don’t bash it just help me with it and advice please

[jstraw428]

no where near enough food.....got a lot of work and eating to do....

[redz]

You should try eating 5 egg whites with 2 eggs and a bowl of oatmeal for breakfast. It will really get you going with the right cals. Also try pre-paring chicken breasts the night before and eat them 2-3 times throughout the day over all you need more cals and also more protein from whole food sources. The shake before bed should be casein protein as well.

[wcfd]

thanks guys

[redz]

Aslo you need good carb sources, wheat bread and rice arent the greatest.Also do you eat any vegetables or fruit other than a potatoe? (sweet potatoe is much better for you than regular potatoes)