2nd ever cycle. Give me your opinions.

[20gauge]

I'm looking to do a second cycle in a few weeks time (5 months since my first) and I'm looking at 2 different cycles, tell me what you think.

Option 1:

Tri-tren 150mg/ml 50mg each of ace, parabolan and eth.
Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/ml twice a week

Option 2:

Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/ml twice per week
Deca Dura: 300mg/ml twice per week

option 2 is what I used for my first ever cycle but I only jabbed once every 5 days.

Iv'e read and heard a few people here and there saying tren should only be used by experienced and well prepared users due to "nasty side effects". Is it safe for a second time user to inject tren? Iv'e read a little about "tren cough", urinating blood (or what people percieved to be blood and wasn't actually blood), insomnia, extreme aggression e.t.c. Has anyone had these side effects with the tren E and/or has anyone had side effects that are unheard of?

Also are the amounts too much for a second cycle? Would I gain more benefit increasing my cycle amounts slowly?

[Kale]

Age ? and stats ?

[20gauge]

Sorry I made a correction, It's not tren enanthate it's tri-tren.

Stats:

age: 24
weight: 194 IB
Height: 5' 9"

Been training for about 3 years at 4-5 times a week, body fat level is about 17%

[LATS60]

Try running a profile on some steroids, where does the parabolin come into tri tren?

[20gauge]

Try running a profile on some steroids, where does the parabolin come into tri tren?

Trenbolone Acetate: 50mgs
Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate: 50mgs
Trenbolone Enanthate: 50mgs

As I understand it the "Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate" is parabolan

http://www.steroid.com/Parabolan.php

[LATS60]

Oh i see mate, confused me there, talking two esters and one brand name in the same profile. If you grew well on your last cycle, then i'd go for option 2 for pure mass.

[Freakish]

i would definitely go with option 2,i know you wanna jump straight onto tren,but learn to walk first before you start running

[20gauge]

Oh i see mate, confused me there, talking two esters and one brand name in the same profile. If you grew well on your last cycle, then i'd go for option 2 for pure mass.

I put on about about 15IB in mass on my first cycle however I lost a little due to the fact that I was ill prepared for pct's and could only afford minimal amounts, then I had an unrelated illness so I ended up losing about half of my mass gains. So I ended up only keeping about 5IB of pure muscle which is shithouse. It really pissed me off hence the reason for going hardcore with the tren.

The only reason I was considering keeping away from the deca/enanthate cycle was because I bloated like a f***** whale and everyone who saw me knew I was on something. I also got terrible acne which I was told was more to do with deca than test E.

[20gauge]

BTW PCT will be 50mg clomid tabs, HCG and 4 weeks worth of clen spaced out as a 2 week on 2 week off cycle.

[LATS60]

Try an AI on cycle to control bloat.
The PCT you have in mind is not substantial enough.

[Flex-Appeal]

if i were you i would add aromasin maybe, remove clen
Your pct= serm/A.I + hcg

[Dinosaur]

if i were you i would put on more mass since your last cycle was not that succefull go with option 2 if am correct the test e / deca dura than after that the next cycle would be the cutting phase.
which will make you poke yourself every day.

[20gauge]

If I were to go for option two would I be able to use equipoise instead of deca?

[LATS60]

If I were to go for option two would I be able to use equipoise instead of deca?

You could, but don't expect much, it's also needs to be run at high doses and for a long duration to see any worthwhile effects, you can expect high RBC, hardness and vascularity, don't expect much mass.

[20gauge]

You could, but don't expect much, it's also needs to be run at high doses and for a long duration to see any worthwhile effects, you can expect high RBC, hardness and vascularity, don't expect much mass.

Have you used both before?

[20gauge]

Ok so would this be a better cycle?:

150mg tri-tren 2ml per week
300mg testosterone E 2ml per week
300mg Deca 2ml per week

Is the deca really necessary as a second cycle can I do without it?