Test,Deca,D-bol....or Test,Deca,anavar???!!!!

[Cypionate6868]

Hey all,

My last cycle went exceptionally well, i finally got into the mind-set of "more is not better" and the benefits were mind-blowing!!!
Cycle went as follows:[/LIST]Deca "Norma": Weeks 1-11 at 400 mg/wk

• Test "Sustanon 250": Weeks 1-12 at 500mg/wk

Winny: Weeks 7-14 at 50mg/day, "usually took Sunday's off, so totalled around 300 mg/wk of winny"......Mex grade, 20mL/50mg bottle...was actually very good Winny!!!And of course; PCT: Weeks 15-17......followed with HCG (2,000 I.U.'s/every 2 days for 10 days, total of 10,000 I.U.'s), also used Clomid (100mg/day, except i did 300mg on day one) for 14 days!

* I recommend this cycle to anyone looking to get strong as sh*t, look amazing (I trimmed up a ton, lost 5 inch's on my waist, got stonger than i've ever been before, felt better, etc.), AND MAINTAIN YOUR GAINS.....this is an awesome cycle my friends!!! I had previously on other cycles (this was my 5th) ALWAYS took way to much sauce, i'm talking like sometimes would go too 1000mg/wk of Test, just stupid sh*t like that thinking i was gona get enourmous....BUT, sadly, i had an ECG and ultrasound on my heart and they found Left Ventricular (along with right also) Hypertrophy "meaning enlarged Heart" along with an enlarged pericardium (wall around the Heart), and also found that the pulmonary pressure "blood that leaves the heart via the pulmonary artery and goes to the lungs" was a bit high also!! This was 100% due to taking to much sh*t at too High of a dose for my first four cycles which i did over the course of about 3 years!!! SO PLEASE, (sorry for ramblin, but i really want to make this a point to you meat heads like me that run alot of sh*t) stay with low doses, I'M NOT AT ALL RECOMMENDING "TO STOP" sauce use, i'm sure as hell not, just be smart about it.....and as your about to find out, my gains were unreal from much much lower doses!!!

* OK, finally, here were my gains:
Bench: started at a max. of 475 lbs., after 14 weeks maxed at 555 for 2!!!
Squat: Box squated 670 lbs. for one prior to start, after week 14 did 750 for one!
DEADLIFT: "my bread and butter", prior-650 lbs., after-*** lbs!!!
**also repped 315 lbs. on bench for 28 reps at week 10!!
BF: started at 22%, dropped too 13%...think about that "13%" FROM 22%!!!!
Waist: started at 42 inch, after week 14 it was 37 inch! THE WIFE IS MUCH HAPPIER!! haha
***Anyways, my point is you can get so much better gains (IN EVERY SINCE OF THE WORD "BETTER") if you stay at lower doses and LIFT WITH INTENSITY (I think so so so many people forget this on their cycle, don't let it do the work for you, WORK HARDER)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Also, I'll probably do my next cycle in the middle of December, i wana do the same one, BUT, here's what i'm thinking, SO PLEASE GIVE ME INPUT BACK, GOOD OR BAD, ANY INPUT WOULD BE GREATLY APPREICATED!!!

*Ok, my problem is i can't decide on if i want to use ANAVAR or D-BOL??!!!!
**I'm thinking:
Weeks: 1-11 run deca (400mg/wk)
Weeks: 1-4 run D-bol (35-50mg/day, start at 35mg week 1, get up to 50 by week 4)
Weeks: 1-13 run Test E (500mg/wk)...i like Test E, so i'm gona give this a shot instead of Sustanon 250 again!! YALL THINK THATS SMART OR NO??!!!
Weeks: 9-15 run Winny (50mg/wk totaling about 250-300mg/wk)
Weeks: 15-17 run PCT "Post Cycle Therapy", Clomid and HCG as mentioned earlier!

OR

Would yall do:
Weeks: 1-11 deca
Weeks: 3-11 ANAVAR?????
Weeks: 1-13 Test E
Weeks: 8 or 9-15 Winny
*followed by PCT

***Final question, thank you for your indulgence....I really wana run the later cycle with the anavar, 1. b/c its much safter and easier on the liver than the D-bol (but i think i'll have much more mass gained with D-bol, BUT, i'll most likely keep all the QUALITY gains from Anavar?!! 2. I don't wana look bloated, which D-Bol def does too me!! 3. It just seems like alot to run to me even without the D-Bol and Var so it's another reason I'm leaning toward Anavar (my buddy "who's an M.D. so i'm guessing the f*cker is right, ha" told me Anavar was originally developed for children who were having trouble growing for whatever reason and thats how Anavar came about) b/c of just simply seems safer route too me!! After my last cycle, my attitude has took a 180 degree turn in probably (NO, DEF) a positive direction toward sauce use, i just recently got married, and i wana be around for the next 50 years, BUT I LOVE THE SAUCE, yall know how it is thats reading this!!

***Anyways, enough rambling, PLEASE let me know what yall think, ANY INPUT WILL BE GREAT, thank you for your time!!!

***** D-BOL OR ANAVAR????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
***** Also, Sustanon 250 or Test Enthanate??!!!!

THANKS AGAIN!!!

CYP

[Angel of death]

I think this thread could have been posted a little shorter and without all the colors.
But anyway, you dont want to be that bloated, you want quality gains, and you want less liver stress....AND youre leaning towards anavar. So take anavar.

[SampsonandDelilah]

also repped 315 lbs. on bench for 28 reps at week 10!!

DUDE...that is mongo!!

I've only had experience with Test E (LOVED IT)...so no recommendations from me...but damn impressive lifts...good luck..stay healthy and take care of that heart!

[LATS60]

i had an ECG and ultrasound on my heart and they found Left Ventricular (along with right also) Hypertrophy "meaning enlarged Heart" along with an enlarged pericardium (wall around the Heart), and also found that the pulmonary pressure "blood that leaves the heart via the pulmonary artery and goes to the lungs" was a bit high also!! This was 100% due to taking to much sh*t at too High of a dose for my first four cycles which i did over the course of about 3 years!!! SO PLEASE, (sorry for ramblin, but i really want to

And they said it was because of your use of steroids of 4 cycles in 3 years???

[Cypionate6868]

Yeah they did, when i wrote that i was just guesstimating, its more like 7 cycles.....thats the only thing it could have been, i took 1000 mg of Test/wk, and was on about 8-12 I.U.'s a day of growth.....doctor said most of it was probably more related to the growth than anything else b/c of how it causes hyperplasia (splitting of cells to make more, resulting in growth of everything)!!

Also, i've decided Anavar is not what i'm going too do b/c Winny is hepa (liver) toxic and Var is as well, so i don't wana put my liver through hell, i might even cut the D-Bol out and just go Deca, Winny, Test E! What do yall think?!

[Schmidty]

ID say go w the var