2nd cycle

[allout13]

so im looking into a second cycle. My first cycle was 10 weeks of test e at 250mg shots 3.5 days apart.

1. My pct needs work. I took nolvadex and clomid (i think my memory is a little fuzzy, i will look it up and post later). Any one have any advice of a pct product to add that will compliment those two?

2. I play intramural football, and last cycle my joints got a little sore, especially my shins. I have researched milk thistle? good or bad for my problem?

3. My parents dont care for aas at all. I see them on all major holidays when i can fly in and last time they were pissed cause they could tell an imediate difference. is 250mg a week too low of a dosage?

thanks for all your help!

stats:
24
5'11 almost 6'0
185
2nd cycle

[Phate]

so im looking into a second cycle. My first cycle was 10 weeks of test e at 250mg shots 3.5 days apart.

1. My pct needs work. I took nolvadex and clomid (i think my memory is a little fuzzy, i will look it up and post later). Any one have any advice of a pct product to add that will compliment those two?
aromasin, research it, look up phneedo's pct
2. I play intramural football, and last cycle my joints got a little sore, especially my shins. I have researched milk thistle? good or bad for my problem?
milk thistle hasn't been proven to do anything, but it's used as a liver aid, not joint aid, for that you could use glucosamin and chondrotin
3. My parents dont care for aas at all. I see them on all major holidays when i can fly in and last time they were pissed cause they could tell an imediate difference. is 250mg a week too low of a dosage?
for what, wasn't your last cycle 500mg/wk
thanks for all your help!

stats:
24
5'11 almost 6'0
185
2nd cycle

no offense bro, but you jumped the gun as if you were natural with those stats i still would say you aren't ready for AS

post up everything you eat tomorrow as i can guarentee that your diet is sub-par, that's the best and first thing you should look at

[allout13]

thanks for the advice. well taken on the diet im researching to get that into check. the biggest problem i had was the pct. after i finished i injured my shoulder and couldnt lift for 2 weeks so that did not help me at all but my pct didnt boost my natural testosterone fast enough at all and i lost all and i mean all of my gains. and they were pretty big gains. i was tinking 250mg becuase i dont wnat to put on as much mass as i did last time so its not as noticable im juicing. and i heard about deca for the joints but thats not exactly suitable for what im looking to accomplish?

[Phate]

thanks for the advice. well taken on the diet im researching to get that into check. nolva/clomid/aromasin is a great pct for a test/dbol cycle, but you have to eat and eat and eat to give your body constant nutrition
the biggest problem i had was the pct. after i finished i injured my shoulder and couldnt lift for 2 weeks so that did not help me at all but my pct didnt boost my natural testosterone fast enough at all and i lost all and i mean all of my gains. and they were pretty big gains.
i was tinking 250mg becuase i dont wnat to put on as much mass as i did last time so its not as noticable im juicing.then why use AS at all? you could run it at 250 and get okay gains but not compared to 500mg
and i heard about deca for the joints but thats not exactly suitable for what im looking to accomplish?it will help with joints, but is also a great mass builder

bold

[allout13]

thats what i thought with the deca. so ill leave that out thanks.
i got some reading up to do on pct ill definitely look into that.
with the mass, i really love athletics more then any other guy i know. i am trying to keep up my speed but still be powerful and explosive. i weight train around explosiveness and it helps me feel better throughout the day as well. but i dont like all the questions about aas so i dont want to put on too much mass or get slow

[Phate]

look in my link database at the top of the steroid section, it has a pct section that should help you a bit

[allout13]

thanks. i put on about 25lbs wiht 500mg a week so you think 250 will still do me some good?

[Phate]

thanks. i put on about 25lbs wiht 500mg a week so you think 250 will still do me some good?

will you put on some good mass, yes, will it do you good, depends on your diet and such

[allout13]

would that be just one shot a week? if it comes in a 250mg amp is there anyway to preserve the amp once you open it?

[Phate]

would that be just one shot a week? if it comes in a 250mg amp is there anyway to preserve the amp once you open it?

you still need to inject twice a week, i would draw half the amp (125mg) in one needle and the other half in a different needle, then cap and store the other needle for later in the week

[allout13]

yea thats what i was thinking. thanks for the advice man.

[Phate]

yea thats what i was thinking. thanks for the advice man.

anytime bro