Lend me your brain for a few minutes?

[tigerbait321]

Okay fellas,

I've been researching quite a bit, but I've got a few problems. I don't want to get flamed, so here's the run through.


I'm 21
5'10
Been training 1 1/2 years
175 lbs
14% body fat


Diet:

about 4000 calories daily
160 g of protein
plenty of carbs




Anyway, here's the delimma. I need an answer BASED ON WHAT I HAVE.


I've got a 10cc Bottle of Sustanon 250
2cc's of Deca
A 44 day Universal Animal Pak
2 (60 capsules each) bottles of Novedex (yes, I already know its not as good as clomid, or nolva)
7lbs of Optimum Nutrition Protein



Thats it. No more, no less. I took my 2nd 1cc shot of the Sus yesterday. So really I've got 8cc's of sus, and 2 cc's of Deca, plus the above mentioned accessories. So, my question for you all... IN YOUR OPINION.....what is the best cycle I can run with the above "materials'.

Save the smart ass answers, please. For those willing to give me an honest answer, I really appreciate it, Thank You in advance, its people like you that make this sites like this successful.

[Big]

well you don't have enough for a cycle or pct, chances are if you run what you have with no pct ultimately you will end up smaller than you started.
deca needs to be run for at least 10 weeks, you have 1 weeks worth. that's enough to completely suppress your natural test production, and do nothing else.
250mg/week of sust followed by no pct would also be a waste.

[redz]

Dont run the deca for sure, you need more sustanon and pct.

[Mammon]

well, you have enough protein

[FireGuy]

well, you have enough protein

lmao!!

[uk395]

^^^^^:

[tigerbait321]

I've heard of people running 1cc per week for 10 weeks of just sustanon and getting results? This is my first cycle.. I can tell you don't feel it would be effective, which may prove to be true, I've seen you post in many threads, and I can tell you really know what your talking about. So.... whats my best bet with what I've got? 1cc per week? shoot the deca weeks 4 and 5? I'll take any help I can get

[redz]

shoot the deca weeks 4 and 5?

Dont do that! save the deca for later it is very supressive and will not give you anything if ran for that short a period.

[Mammon]

dont even bother with the deca..
the sust, well most will say ed/eod but you can get away with twice a week..
one shot a week would be close to a HRT dose.. you also have to think about the esters envolved when dealing with sust.. imo for our purposes its really not worth doing.. id hold off until i could get what i needed to do a proper cycle.

[tigerbait321]

so the two deca shots will do absolutely nothing at all for me?

[redz]

so the two deca shots will do absolutely nothing at all for me?

They may cause a loss of libido if anything.

[chuckt12345]

absolutely nothing is correct.

[tigerbait321]

well damn, I was getting excited after reading of people making 15-20 lb gains on 250 ml sus a week.

[Mammon]

you may see some benefit from 250mg a week but using sust wouldnt be the way to go.. a single ester would be the best bet. jmo

[tigerbait321]

Thank you Mammon! I realized after I'd bought the sustanon that I should've gone with a single ester testosterone instead of a blend (sus). So... in your opinion, would I be better off continueing to run 1cc per week, or should I do a cc every 5 days? I've decided to just go ahead and do the deca as well. I may get a little gain from it, and I don't really feel like having it just sitting around anyway.

[PT]

i would get more sust and run 500mgs a week for 10 weeks.

[Mammon]

^^^ agree...e5d would give you what 7 weeks or so.. to short
if your set on doing it id just do 1ml a week..probably still come up short of 10 weeks.

you have anti-e's and pct covered?

[marcus300]

You havent been training long enough or old enough IMHO to use AAS - http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=367187

[redz]

I've decided to just go ahead and do the deca as well.

Well I guess you arent listening to anyone so why ask for advice?

[PT]

this kid is lost. 2ml's of deca wont do a damn thing for you. its people like you that gives steroid users a bad rep. because you have only been workingout for a year and your already jumping on steroids that wont do a damn thing for you. your definatly going to get the sides from your 2ml od deca but you wont get any kind of positive results whatsoever. learn to lift and eat then you can think about using drugs

[tigerbait321]

I'm not going to listen about the deca. I dont want it in my house, and I'd feel bad throwing it away. I'm a broke college student, I can't afford to buy anything else at the moment. I guess 1cc a week is my best bet...

[tigerbait321]

I've been working out for 4 years, 1 1/2 years heavily. I've make significant gains naturally. I'm not trying to get huge or anything, I just want to gain some weight. Before my 1st shot I was benching 310, squatting 415 ( i have terrible legs, knee probs from football). When I said training, I meant with a clean diet, not drinking heavily ect.

[PT]

im locking this thread because its useless. your here with the hopes of people telling you what you want to hear not the truth