whats worse on the hair ?

[FreakofNature23]

dbol or test e ?

[sitries]

dbol

[FreakofNature23]

is dbol really bad on your hair ? . . is it because fin or dutasteride cant protect your hair when your on it .

[FreakofNature23]

bump?

[DSM4Life]

both

[FreakofNature23]

well test e isnt that bad by itself with some fin or dutasteride no ?

[DSM4Life]

well test e isnt that bad by itself with some fin or dutasteride no ?

I did test e with dutasteride and i lost hair. If you have MPB your going to lose hair on a cycle hands down. If you want to keep telling yourself , your that special guy that it won't happen to then more power to you but the truth is you will.

[FreakofNature23]

how much hair did you loose ? and how much test did u do per week for how many weeks?

[DSM4Life]

how much hair did you loose ? and how much test did u do per week for how many weeks?

250 2x a week (total 500) for 12. A good amount.

[FreakofNature23]

oh ok , well im going to be doing 400mg a week for 12 weeks .. so 1200 mg less....what kind of inhibitors are you using ?

[FreakofNature23]

bump?

[RoidBoid]

do uno if ur mbp prone ..? fina and duta will only bloke dht conversion from test ...! and not totally either, im in the same boat friend, been researching for 2months solid ! although im not mbp prone i got alopecia from harsh cycle and id look into fina,duta,saw plemetto,b-5,nizoral and benzoyl peroxide

[Flex-Appeal]

i'd say dbol is worse bc Finasteride will not work with it since it's a dht. On the other hand test is the only thing finasteride will work against. Thats my thought on it

[jimmyinkedup]

marriage - that's worse on the hair ....*L*

[Z-Ro]

dbol or test e ?

Both but Test E would be worse IMO without the use of a DHT-inhibitor.

(This is coming from personal experience.)

[Z-Ro]

I did test e with dutasteride and i lost hair. If you have MPB your going to lose hair on a cycle hands down. If you want to keep telling yourself , your that special guy that it won't happen to then more power to you but the truth is you will.

DSM, did you use pharmicutical dutasteride or research dutasteride?

Just curious, I am not arguing with you but last time I cycled I used pharm. grade dutasteride and it was so strong that it actually nullified my erections ON cycle. I actually think my hair was thicker/healthier ON cycle and ON dutasteride than it was when I let off the dutasteride months later after the cycle was over.

I guess my point is I agree with you about losing hair but for myself, the real loss of hair began about 2 weeks into PCT for myself. I attribute it to flux in hormones.

[Z-Ro]

Also, to the OP. If you are concerned about hair loss, I would look into Tbol or Var, not Dbol.

[FreakofNature23]

I m 22 with mbp proneness!. and i didnt really look into the sides of loosing your hair on aas , i was more concerned with other side effects , so i never used any dht inhibitors! ive only been researching that kind of stuff for a couple of months now . . i was on a cycle of dbol 40mg a day and test e 500 MG a week for 10 weeks, i didnt really notice the thinning until my barber told me , now i look into the mirror and direct light and i can notice it pretty much i dont know if neone else noticed i doubt it .. i decided to drop the dbol and go 400mg a week of just TEST E for 12 weeks with niz and dutasteride and see what happens , im nervous i dont want to loose nemore hair . Z-RO what did your cycle look like ?

[DSM4Life]

DSM, did you use pharmicutical dutasteride or research dutasteride?

Just curious, I am not arguing with you but last time I cycled I used pharm. grade dutasteride and it was so strong that it actually nullified my erections ON cycle. I actually think my hair was thicker/healthier ON cycle and ON dutasteride than it was when I let off the dutasteride months later after the cycle was over.

I guess my point is I agree with you about losing hair but for myself, the real loss of hair began about 2 weeks into PCT for myself. I attribute it to flux in hormones.

Research.

[Z-Ro]

Research.

Research what? It was a question towards you...

I asked if your dutasteride was pharmicutical grade or research chem...

Unless you want me to research your posts to find if something was PG or a RC?

[DSM4Life]

Research what? It was a question towards you...

I asked if your dutasteride was pharmicutical grade or research chem...

Unless you want me to research your posts to find if something was PG or a RC?

I meant it was research chem. from here.

[Z-Ro]

I m 22 with mbp proneness!. and i didnt really look into the sides of loosing your hair on aas , i was more concerned with other side effects , so i never used any dht inhibitors! ive only been researching that kind of stuff for a couple of months now . . i was on a cycle of dbol 40mg a day and test e 500 MG a week for 10 weeks, i didnt really notice the thinning until my barber told me , now i look into the mirror and direct light and i can notice it pretty much i dont know if neone else noticed i doubt it .. i decided to drop the dbol and go 400mg a week of just TEST E for 12 weeks with niz and dutasteride and see what happens , im nervous i dont want to loose nemore hair . Z-RO what did your cycle look like ?

If you are MPB prone and you run Test/Dbol with no precautions at all your going to lose hair.

I can tell you two different methods I took reguarding hair loss and cycles. One cycle I ran nothing but topicals, ie: Nizoral, Spiro Cream, Polysorbate, Rogaine, 2X ED was my protocol.

The cycle was 500mg Test/400mg EQ. Result was some light shedding/hair loss. I knew then that no matter how many topicals I threw at my hair it would not be enough.

Next cycle I did was 500mg Sustanon (wanted to know what Sust. was all about). I used dutasteride on this cycle, other than the initial shedding from dutasteride I did not noticed much if any shedding on cycle but 500mg Sust. is pretty low. However, even during my cycle I had libido issues where it took an insanely long amount of time to get off. After cycle I kept running the dutasteride and it was even worse during my PCT (libido aspect). I lost some hair during my PCT due a change in hormones (IMO). Then after PCT I dropped the dutasteride to see if it was really toying with my sexual drive as much as I thought and it was.

For instance, instead of taking 1-1.5 hours to MAYBE get off on dutasteride, I can in 30-40 minutes now. On duta I had a hellacious time trying to bust a nut. Just a shitty side of trying to keep your hair...

[Z-Ro]

I meant it was research chem. from here.

Oh okay, thanks. I was really confused. lol I was like wtf!

I am kind of skeptical of RC myself...all I know is I took pharm. grade dutasteride and it put a massive dent in my sexual appetite at only .5mg EOD.

[DSM4Life]

Oh okay, thanks. I was really confused. lol I was like wtf!

I am kind of skeptical of RC myself...all I know is I took pharm. grade dutasteride and it put a massive dent in my sexual appetite at only .5mg EOD.

Well that shows its doing something but is it worth it ? You might keep your hair but how you going to keep a woman/man !

[Z-Ro]

Well that shows its doing something but is it worth it ? You might keep your hair but how you going to keep a woman/man !

hahaha...touche my friend! Not much of a debate in that. If I figured out a solution I will definately share it with the board.

[DSM4Life]

hahaha...touche my friend! Not much of a debate in that. If I figured out a solution I will definately share it with the board.

My solution is that you make a decision , cycle and loss hair or stay natural.

[Z-Ro]

My solution is that you make a decision , cycle and loss hair or stay natural.

[DSM4Life]

[FreakofNature23]

if i take dutasteride during my test e cycle . will i have to continue it after my cycle is done ? anyone else have the same problems on dutasteride as z-ro? ...z-ro are you prone ? .....is 400mg a week of test e going to torch my hair ?

[bboveri]

How long does the shedding typically last for you guys?? Like are you losing hair on cycle or in PCT??

[FreakofNature23]

i sware i didnt even notice losing hair on cycle ,i only noticed a couple of weeks after pct.

[bboveri]

So are you still shedding or has it stopped?

[FreakofNature23]

How do you guy define shedding ?

[bboveri]

How do you guy define shedding ?

How many hairs do you typically notice on your pillow in the morning? Put your head over a sink and run your hand a couple swipes through?

I THINK I am shedding now, I am not sure because I never really looked for it before...

[FreakofNature23]

when my hair was a bit longer ....id notice a couple of hairs come out when i swipe through .. i never really thought of it as anything big tho .

[FreakofNature23]

is 400mg a test a week , really bad on the hair ?

[jay112]

i think the best way while on cycle is to keep the hair very short almost skin head while using nizoral and fina, your hair will get thicker plus the shortness of the hair will keep it intact

[Joker111086]

If you are MPB prone and you run Test/Dbol with no precautions at all your going to lose hair.

I can tell you two different methods I took reguarding hair loss and cycles. One cycle I ran nothing but topicals, ie: Nizoral, Spiro Cream, Polysorbate, Rogaine, 2X ED was my protocol.

The cycle was 500mg Test/400mg EQ. Result was some light shedding/hair loss. I knew then that no matter how many topicals I threw at my hair it would not be enough.

Next cycle I did was 500mg Sustanon (wanted to know what Sust. was all about). I used dutasteride on this cycle, other than the initial shedding from dutasteride I did not noticed much if any shedding on cycle but 500mg Sust. is pretty low. However, even during my cycle I had libido issues where it took an insanely long amount of time to get off. After cycle I kept running the dutasteride and it was even worse during my PCT (libido aspect). I lost some hair during my PCT due a change in hormones (IMO). Then after PCT I dropped the dutasteride to see if it was really toying with my sexual drive as much as I thought and it was.

For instance, instead of taking 1-1.5 hours to MAYBE get off on dutasteride, I can in 30-40 minutes now. On duta I had a hellacious time trying to bust a nut. Just a shitty side of trying to keep your hair...

whats MPB?? trying to research it to see, cuz my first cycle i didnt notice any hair loss... but my hair is probably thicker then most carpets.

[FreakofNature23]

its MBP. Male Baldness Pattern . Yeh this 2nd cycle ima use some dutasteride and niz and buzz my hair for the cycle .

[Crest]

both! i lose hair on cycle then it thckens back up. im not sure if my hair line receides each time i cycle though? i cant tell ....