PCT during cycle

[8heyzeus4]

Im going to be doing an EQ/test cycle. I have a job that wont afford me the luxury of getting huge really fast without people asking questions and possible seeking drug testing, so my question is what of the 3 pct drugs should I use during my cycle that will combat bloating? A couple of years ago I ran a deca/sust cycle, I gained 27lbs and it was pretty obvious I was on roids. Thats why I opted for the EQ this time.

Also Im thinking about running the EQ for 12 weeks alone. Bad idea?
Ill be using enth or prop for the test. I dont want to run 400mgs a week because I think Ill bloat up to much, is it even worth running 200mgs? I love test, but not what it does to my hairline and face.

[redz]

What do you mean 3 pct drugs? I know of alot more than 3...... In any case an ai like adex should keep bloat down to a minimum.

[hellapimpin]

yea i don't see an issue with running your eq around 500-600ish and test around 200mgs..its doesnt shut you down as bad as deca would.. Armidex is awsome for bloat, i usually use that, and keep nolva on hand just incase my nips get itchy.

[hellapimpin]

try running your eq longer bro.. 14weeks atleast

[johnnybigguns]

What do you do?
I suggest arimidex if your worried about bloating

[Big]

What are your plans for pct? The title "pct during cycle" concerns me...

[redz]

I think he is confusing running an ai on cycle with pct on cycle^^atleast I hope thats what he meant.

[T-MOS]

What are your plans for pct? The title "pct during cycle" concerns me...

my thoughts exactly...no such creature exsists

PCT = Post Cycle Therapy

Meaning AFTER that cycle is over , not during

during, you will use ancillary drugs to prevent estrogen side effects (AI)

and you will still need to run PCT AFTER the cycle is over

[8heyzeus4]

My apologies on the title. I understand what PCT means I was indeed confusing drugs like clomid, HCG and nolvadex for ancillary drugs to fight bloating. I've just read numerous times that people use nolvadex for the duration of the cycle to combat excess estrogen (which I probably wrongfully assumed causes bloat)
My plans for PCT are nolva and HCG (if I can get HCG, because HCG is almost impossible to get here) I'm not going to use clomid because 1. I've read you don't need it if your using nolva and 2. I've used it b4 for pct and did NOT like how it made me feel.
As for a cycle of 12 weeks EQ and 10 weeks prop or enth, what kind of gains can I expect? Any feedback would be appreciated from the vets. I picked EQ because deca stays inthe system to long and I read that EQ is easier to keep gains. Plus I've always wanted to try EQ

[T-MOS]

EQ also is very slow to see gains. What dose do you want to run it at?

Most say you should run eq at least 14-16 weeks to see results, and dose should be 600mgs/week

so thats up to you how you run it. gains are more determined by your diet and training then they are your steroids, so its hard to tell you what to expect

[Outta Kontrol]

you'd have to really have your diet in check. EQ will have you eaating like a mother! but i would def go with at least 14 weeks

[8heyzeus4]

I was thinking of running EQ 300mgs weeks 1-3, 400mgs weeks 4-8, 500mgs weeks 9-12
Then test 200mgs weeks 1-10
Pct= 20mgs nolva/day week 1-4
500ius HCG every other day weeks 1-4

My diet is very good now. I eat clean and have a calorie counter on my iPhone. Proper diet is very important to me, that's another reason I chose EQ because I like the increased apetite factor

[redz]

Nolva only pct is very weak, clomid is a good addition even at a very low dose.

[8heyzeus4]

Yea that's why I'm trying desperatly to find HCG. Clomid makes me feel like total shit, and when I used it it didn't really work all that well

[T-MOS]

HCG is used primarily during the cycle not after,

no need to pyramid the dose of EQ as it takes long enough to build up in your blood

[8heyzeus4]

That's the first I've heard of HCG being used during a cycle. Everything I've read (including an excellent sticky on this board from a very knowledgable member) says it's a PCT staple.

I read somewhere that pyramiding EQ is good because its a waste to use 400-600mgs right off the bat because of how long it takes to activate.

Thanks for letting me bounce ideas off y'all btw.

[T-MOS]

Eq needs to build up in your system. it takes a long time for it to kick in, so I wouldn't pyramid. I would want the highest dose right off the bat to get it building up in the blood

[T-MOS]

read this sticky and see if it helps with PCT

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=349581

[8heyzeus4]

True
Any idea how many mgs/ml is common for EQ. It comes in 10ml juggs right?