summer cycle to cut off fat and retain muscle

[cookieboy]

hiya,

i started lifting about 8 months ago and have put on quite abit of good muscle but my problem is i started lifting when i still had a fair bit of body fat around my stomach and chest fat also, i haven't really lost much of this fat but i have put on muscle,
i want to lose this fat for the summer and get abit ripped and show off my new muscle and although i know losing fat has nothing to do with steroids and everything to do with cardio and diet, i still don't want to lose the muscle i've gained and possibly put some on during cutting up.

i live in thailand so i can get steds pretty easy, i was going to go for a winstrol/trenbolone 8 week course would anyone reccomend this, i'm also contemplating adding test but i don't want to bloat or put on any water if possible as i done a sustanon/deca/test cycle 3 years ago (i lifted before but stopped for a year) and by the end of it i looked terrible.

would i put on water if i added test to a win/tren cycle and what would be the best way to run this course.

any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks alot.

[PT]

winny and tren will help harden you up if your bf is already low but its not going to burn that belly fat away no matter what you read. if you want to lose it then a strict diet and 4-5 days of cardio is your best bet. you can throw clen and t-3 in but your diet and cardio will be the determining factor

[hellapimpin]

i concur

[lelyano23]

drop ur body fat first then think about steroids
diet and cardio is the key for what u want

[BIG_TRUCK]

8 months of weight lifting.

The word "steds" shouldn't even cross your mind for another 2 years.

[T-MOS]

WoW how time flies, just a week ago you only trained for 6 months....a week later your up to 8 months....thats some great training you got there. Two months of hard work in one week!!

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=375602

[JiGGaMaN]

WoW how time flies, just a week ago you only trained for 6 months....a week later your up to 8 months....thats some great training you got there. Two months of hard work in one week!!

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=375602

NAILED EM! why everyone calling steroids steds? sounds too close to std's for my liking.

[inky-e]

NAILED EM! why everyone calling steroids steds

? sounds too close to std's for my liking.

Hmmm...I think theres a story there somewhere!!lol