Anavar

[fry1020]

I was wondering how harsh Anavar is on the liver. Right now I am on week 4 of 6 on H-Drol. I was wondering if it would be too harsh to stack the anavar with the H-Drol for the last two weeks, then continue on the anavar for an additional two weeks.

Thanks

[Mammon]

var is relatively mild..

[fry1020]

Do you think my body would be able to handle a cycle that's a total of 8-10 weeks (combining H-drol and var)? I'm currently taking 1 g hawthorne berry and 2 g of milk thistle per day as well.

[Mammon]

should.. altho not a fan of those pro-hormones

[fry1020]

howcome? what supplements do you like?

[Mammon]

i take alot of supplements.. none of which are pro-hormones..

[fry1020]

have you ever tried anavar or anything similar?

[Mammon]

uhhhh. sure..

[fry1020]

So you think if I just continue my cycle things should be fine. Should I up my dose of milk thistle? And what should I look for as signs that I should stop?

[Mammon]

you running the h-drol stuff for the whole 10 weeks or dropping it and continuing with the var..
how long do you want to run the var..

how old are you and how long have you been training

[jamyjamjr]

h-drol is horrible on your liver, i'd reconsider

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

Just get your blood work done frequently, should be fine.

[fry1020]

How frequently do you recommend? Does anyone know any visual signs of liver issues?

[jamyjamjr]

jaundice.. yellowing of eyes, nails, skin.. this is a serious matter if not treated.. if you've reached this point, your doing something wrong (it can be fixed with meds and immediate termination of cycle)

[fry1020]

do you honestly think there is a chance that it would get to that point? Or is this a weird worse case scenario?

[Mammon]

yellowing of the eyes for one

[Mammon]

damn im slow.. anyways.. id consider looking into some liv52 and NAC

[fry1020]

will do, thanks for your input everyone. if anyone else has anything to add, don't hesitate to post.

[jamyjamjr]

do you honestly think there is a chance that it would get to that point? Or is this a weird worse case scenario?

no, its not a worst case scinerio, worst case would be cerosis, which is cell death....

this would be the "im an idiot because i used to many liver toxic substances at a stupid dosage, in a stupid stack, cuz i have no idea what im doing"...



but im not saying that's your situation.. dont get me wrong.. lol

just keep up with blood work every 4 to 5 weeks... no drinking or any other thing that could be hard on your liver

h-drol is pretty hard on your liver imo

[fry1020]

yeah, normally I wouldn't plan to just throw H-Drol and var together, but I just figured since I only had 2 weeks left. Plus I've heard of people doing cycles up to 12 weeks. That's where the idea came from.

What type of dosage would you recommend at this point?

[NewMuscle83]

quite honestly, 4 weeks of var is not gonna do much. I ran it for 7 weeks at 80mgs ED and I didn't start seeing real results till the last week or two, so if i did it again, i would go for 10 weeks.

Now, h-drol for 6 weeks and anavar for 10 is definitely not recommended. To get the most bang for your buck, I would recommend you finish your h-drol cycle, do 4 weeks of pct, and then wait 10 weeks to start a var cycle, if you choose to do so at that point.

If you want, you can check out my log of my var cycle, just search under my name.

Also, it would really help if you posted some stats, like age, height, weight, bf, diet, training, blah blah..

[NewMuscle83]

Plus, why h-drol?? If you're gonna do a prohormone might as well use an effective substance.

[fry1020]

Right now I'm at:
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 185 lbs
Bodyfat: approx 11%
Training: M-Chest, T-Arms, W-Back, T-Shoulders, F-Legs
Max Bench: 300 lbs
Barbell Rows: 215 x 8
Max Squat: approx 335 ( I know my legs are lacking )
Dips: 8 reps with 85 lb dumbbell attached

I chose H-Drol after a recommendation from a friend. So far I have had decent overall gains

[jamyjamjr]

quite honestly, 4 weeks of var is not gonna do much. I ran it for 7 weeks at 80mgs ED and I didn't start seeing real results till the last week or two, so if i did it again, i would go for 10 weeks.

Now, h-drol for 6 weeks and anavar for 10 is definitely not recommended. To get the most bang for your buck, I would recommend you finish your h-drol cycle, do 4 weeks of pct, and then wait 10 weeks to start a var cycle, if you choose to do so at that point.

If you want, you can check out my log of my var cycle, just search under my name.

Also, it would really help if you posted some stats, like age, height, weight, bf, diet, training, blah blah..

sounds like you got some crapy var... my brother did 30mg ed and gained 12-15lbs of lean mass in 8 weeks

[NewMuscle83]

sounds like you got some crapy var... my brother did 30mg ed and gained 12-15lbs of lean mass in 8 weeks

could be, but on the other hand, 12-15 lbs of lbm on var is unheard of, and some would argue it is chemically not possible.

[fry1020]

I'm not looking to necessarily put on any weight. If I gain lean muscle, I won't mind, but I'm mainly looking to lose some of my bodyfat.

[jamyjamjr]

could be, but on the other hand, 12-15 lbs of lbm on var is unheard of, and some would argue it is chemically not possible.

yea well, he's 6' 6 and like 270.. perfect diet, even more perfect training routine