Test Blends VS. Single Test

[T-MOS]

OK, so it is that time of year again where we get an onslaught of Newbies, wanting to get their spring break and summer beach bodies out of a bottle and it seems they always want to use SUST or another blended Test.

I can not think of one single reason other then MAYBE TRT that a blend of short and long esters are needed in a "Bodybuilder's" cycle

PROS of a blended test:

for low dose TRT patients that do not bodybuild, one shot a week or every two weeks is fine. They get the initial spike (albeit low) from the short ester, and then a slow release of the longer esters until their next shot

CONS:

For bodybuilding purposes at higher doses, you need to shoot ED or EOD at minimum in order to try to keep your HIGHER blood concentrations level and not spiking up and down

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PROS of a single ester test:

Less frequent injections if using a longer ester like Enanthate or Cypionate

Easier to maintain stable blood levels

you get to pick the ester for the release time that is best for your cycle, short or long


CONS of using single esters:

Frequent ED or EOD injections for the shorter ester or no ester


Can anyone else give any good reasons to use multi-ester test?

NARK, I would love your knowledgeable input here as well

[MMArmour]

Single. Period.

[Ernst]

Sometimes a blend is cheaper.... that's all that came to mind.

Single ester all the way.

[redz]

single is best.

[The Deuce]

Now I have never used a Multi Blend Test before. I have used a multi blend of Tren before but that was not a good experience. I have wanted to try SUST just to see how i would gain from it. Just because I have never used it before... BUT .... with everyone smashing on it saying it's junk I will probably Never end up trying it.

[johnnybigguns]

Single

[Dizz28]

I voted Single esters.

The way I have used blends in the past is as sort of a frontload into a cycle. EOD injections of Sustanon or Omnadrens for the first 2 weeks and then transitioning into E3.5D injections of Test E for the remainder of the cycle. Cuts the lag time down by a week or so, not a huge deal but it's something I do and prefer

Other then that, I'd rather singles

[T-MOS]

Sometimes a blend is cheaper.... that's all that came to mind.

Single ester all the way.

hmmm i could understand if it was HALF the cost of a single, but the SLIGHT increase in price would be worth the less injections and more stable levels, don't ya think?

anyone else?

Just want to be able to give the newbies a place to go to understand why SUST isn't the magic drug of choice

[mg316]

single

[D7M]

definitely single.

though I've actually never used sust, but for the precise reasons listed above.

[Nitro29]

I use a blend of prop, mast, tren. It works great and saves $. But then again, I dont mind injecting every day.

[Mammon]

^^^ well thats different...

[T-MOS]

I use a blend of prop, mast, tren. It works great and saves $. But then again, I dont mind injecting every day.

yea, but the prop is a single ester test so thats fine !!!

[GauchB]

Single all day!!!

[Nitro29]

Ahh, I see now. Forgive me for posting with no sleep. Carry on

[JAYROD]

i felt the same as most here just using prop, cyp or enth in all my previous cycles but my last cycle i did a simple 10 weeker with sust and winny at the end and the cycle went great with quality gains. i just started (sust/tren a/drol) and i expect great results and i'm feeling good only 5 days in (minus the anadrol headaches). i shoot the sust eod which is no biggie when i have to shoot the tren ed anyway. if you haven't tried a multi ester test and don't mind frequent pinning i recomend giving it a shot because it might work great for you as it did me.

[T-MOS]

ok, there are 3 votes so far for Multi- Ester Test, ampx, bigguy44, KingOfSofia,

But they didn't leave reasons why they prefer Multi ester over single. Would like to hear any reasons guys that you think multi is better..

[CHUCKYthentic]

single

[JAYROD]

ok, there are 3 votes so far for Multi- Ester Test, ampx, bigguy44, KingOfSofia,

But they didn't leave reasons why they prefer Multi ester over single. Would like to hear any reasons guys that you think multi is better..

my reason for multi over single is
1. it "kicked in" much quicker as you would expect.
2. my strength was higher on sust.
3. i didn't get night sweats like i've had everytime with a single ester.
4. price.

[T-MOS]

my reason for multi over single is
1. it "kicked in" much quicker as you would expect.
2. my strength was higher on sust.
3. i didn't get night sweats like i've had everytime with a single ester.
4. price.

Interesting , THANKS

[T-MOS]

[jbm]

Single here!

[jstraw428]

single ester test.....and prop rules all......

[Narkissos]

NARK, I would love your knowledgeable input here as well

Honestly it doesn't matter to me.

I'm not a fan of test period.

-CNS

[jamyjamjr]

iv only used sust, so my opinion would be biased, but im about to do some test c so ill let you know... but my gains on sust have been absolutly nothing less then amazing

[Jbigman50]

This is my first cycle on Sust, always used test C or E before. I love it the sustanon I feel much better. Seeing results etc.... I am injecting EOD. I am also getting spontaneous erections for absolutely no reason.

[jimmyinkedup]

single for me
sust is the why bother of the test family imo....
for as often as u have to effectively inject to optimize results - just use prop......
JMO......

[leanmuscle]

Ive used sust for multiple 10 wk cycles with great gains every time. I do 2 a wk and have never had any problems and always had great gains. I tried test e for a cycle and dint seem to get as much out of it.

[Andro9]

Ive used sust for multiple 10 wk cycles with great gains every time. I do 2 a wk and have never had any problems and always had great gains. I tried test e for a cycle and dint seem to get as much out of it.

then it was because of your diet or lower dosage..

[hankdiesel]

Honestly it doesn't matter to me.

I'm not a fan of test period.

-CNS

This is the first time I heard anyone say they weren't a fan of test.

[leanmuscle]

thanks for the reply. I was doing 550 of sust a wk and i only did 500 of test e a wk. I have read these forums about single or multiple esters but if I am getting good gains off of multi esters. would you suggest that I go to a single ester?

[Mammon]

nah if you are happy with it thats straight..



me, its single ester..

[leanmuscle]

i appericiate it bro. i understand the reasoning behind doing a single but ive also been told if its not broke dont fix it. just trying to find a happy median. thanks again for the input.

[T-MOS]

i appericiate it bro. i understand the reasoning behind doing a single but ive also been told if its not broke dont fix it. just trying to find a happy median. thanks again for the input.

if it is working , then keep going.

I like to think of it as We want the test in us, why have 4 things delivering it at different times in your body when you can have one delivery and get the same test?

I think the less things to fluctuate blood levels the better, but that's just me

I am sure there are good things too about having 4 different release times in your body, that is why I started this thread in hopes of getting the technical advantages of using the multi esters/

Thus the reason I wanted Nark to give some expert technical advice, even if he doesn't like test per say, I know he has ton of knowledge and thought maybe he could still shed some light on advantages and disadvantages of using multi esters over single.

[leanmuscle]

Ill be awaiting his input. Sust is alot eaiser for me to get and thats one of the reasons I have been using it over test e, for some reason its harder for me to get test e or test p.

[Narkissos]

This is the first time I heard anyone say they weren't a fan of test.

Clearly you haven't been around bodybuilding long.

[Narkissos]

Thus the reason I wanted Nark to give some expert technical advice, even if he doesn't like test per say, I know he has ton of knowledge and thought maybe he could still shed some light on advantages and disadvantages of using multi esters over single.

Honestly speaking, there isn't much to add.

At the very basic level, test is test.

It matters very little, particularly where large amounts of administered.

At the larger doses the only real difference will be the total amounts of testosterone (i.e. the amount administered minus the weight of the ester)

Personally I think there is a place for multi-estered test blends... but I believe that those manufactured (and marketed as being ideal for HRT.. i.e. sustanon) do leave much to be desired.

Personally, if i were brewing a compound for once-per-week administration... it'd be acetate, phenylproprionate, and isocaproate.

I've found that my reported side effects are lower on blends that on single esters personally.

I think this is particularly relevant because my test administration, when i concede to actually use it in a cycle (which i usually don't) is very low.

[Narkissos]

While on the topic of blends... I rate omnadren as having a better release curve than sustanon.

[T-MOS]

^^^^ thanks Nark !!!

[juicy_brucy]

This is the first time I heard anyone say they weren't a fan of test.

you'll hear it from me too... I am not a big fan of test either.
Single ester for me btw.