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  1. 03-23-2009, 02:23 PM #1
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    Lightbulb letro advice

    Hey guys,
    I am starting my third week on cycle today and I know i am gonna get shit for this but here goes.....
    I am on a test cyp/deca cycle and have had no sides on previous cycles. I havent been running an AI on this cycle and havent had any problems. But today I was at my doc and wanted to see what i could get away with so to speak so i asked him about some Letro. He wrote it in a heartbeat. Now I have legal Letro and since I am on the 19-nor, I am in the mindset that it cant hurt to run it....Right?

    My first question is: At what doseage? Or even at all?

    I know the debates on running AI's and SERMS during cycle and have read threads about the estrogen spike once you stop the AI.

    That brings me to my next question:
    Since I may run the Letro the rest of the cycle, should I start the Nolva immediately when I stop the Letro? By doing this, I would actually be running Nolva right up to the time to start my PCT.... then continuing with Nolva and clomid for PCT....

    Thanks for all of the help!
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    personally i feel letro is a little to strong to run on cycle.. i prefer adex.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan ^ View Post

    That brings me to my next question:
    Since I may run the Letro the rest of the cycle, should I start the Nolva immediately when I stop the Letro? By doing this, I would actually be running Nolva right up to the time to start my PCT.... then continuing with Nolva and clomid for PCT....

    Thanks for all of the help!
    this would be alright if your going to use it.. id taper off the letro..
    what dose you plan to run.
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  3. 03-23-2009, 02:31 PM #3
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    If you don't have problems with gyno or estrogen sides, then why run letro?

    If you really want to run it just to run it (don't know why anyone would) you can run .25mgs e3d.
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    Thanx for the feedback guys.

    If i ran it i would run it very low. Something in the neighborhood of .25mg eod or e3d. Really dont want to supress gains...which we all dont right?! and maybe its a mind thing or the fact that I started this cycle with my bf% a little higher than i ever have before. (15%) Maybe I'm just paranoid with the deca and the high bf....everytime my nipple or chest has an itch...I'm friggin feelin for the under the nipple lump! LOL
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    thanx again guys for the help. I guess seing as how I havent had any sides before, I feel the need to ask questions on AI's and SERMS during cycle. This is all new territory for me!
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    its all good.. i for one have no issues with people running an AI through the cycle as a preventive measure..
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    Yeah. The debates on Ai's and Serms are a dime a dozen. As always, thanx for the good advice mammon.
    Have you had any issues with less gains by using AI during cycles?
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    nope.. not at all.
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    I do know I need to decide now due to it taking a bit to get in the system (at least thats the general concensus).
    Maybe its time to run a little guinnea pig experiment on myself! LOL
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    I usually walk around 15% as well, and I always use Letro @ .25mg e3d. I am also really gyno prone. When you said you never had any issue, my thought was why use something just because you have it. If you feel the need to use because your nipple are feeling wierd, then use it, but I wouldn't use it just because you have it. I'm with the other poster, prevention is priceless!
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  11. 03-23-2009, 06:47 PM #11
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    This is why i wrote the thread below bro.

    It should clear up some questions

    Running Letro reversals, preventing gyno, and everthing inbetween
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=379916
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    Guys, Firt off thanx for the responses. I have had alot of questions answered today. however, alot have been pushed aside. For starters, I see that Letro comes in 2.5mg pills. Now, I am no chemist or phrmacist but how in the hell do you get .25mg out of that little ass pill! If you quater it, its still .625mg. So the next question comes into play...How much is too much when it comes to letro? I was planning on running the .25 e3d but I am going to have to find a way to split that pill more!

    I am still undecided about starting the letro but I am leaning towards the prevention is better method. (Partly because I am a little high on the bf and pinning 300mg of deca/week) For some reason I just cant get this shit outta my mind even though I have had no sides on previous cycles.

    That brings me to my next question. (I read the thread by War above and its great) If I did start the letro and run it throughout the rest of my cycle, when should i taper it off? when should i start nolva and at what doseage? and how long should i run the nolva to block the spike in estrogen? (all the way til I start my PCT?)

    Again guys thanx for all the help.
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    ^^^^
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    Fellas...help a brutha out here. Someone please explain how to get .25mg out of that little pill? Again me being new to the AI's help me out here. Like i said above, if you quater the pill, its still .625 mg. Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldnt that be a bit much?
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    Thats why you buy liquid Letro.

    Or find another research chem, and buy smaller dosed pills.

    To answer your questions i think that Letro on cycle should be reserved for guys with SERIOUS sensitivity to ERSEs.

    Otherwise prevent these issues by running Adex throughout the cycle.
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    Liquid Letro...That wouldve been good to know when the doc was writing out the script! LOL.

    So x the Letro for now and go with Adex...Hope my insurance desnt get suspicious! LMAO!

    Seriously guys if I ran it .30mgs e3d, tapered it off say the last two weeks of deca cycle and started running nolva for a week or so, then around 15 days after cycle run my pct, do ya'll see a problem?
    I am not trying to not utilize the info given but I do want to use the letro i have in hand instead of buying adex when i already have an AI.
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    id just split them in quarters...
    hell, id go with adex anyway... screw letro
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    thnx mammon. I'll take that advice. Gonna obtain the adex tomorrow. What is a normal doseage for adex and how often?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan ^ View Post
    thnx mammon. I'll take that advice. Gonna obtain the adex tomorrow. What is a normal doseage for adex and how often?
    most do .25mg/ED or .5mg/EOD
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    Thnx fellas! I have once again learned a shitload.
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    yeah ldex is just to strong imo.. adex is the way to go..
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