Test E and Deca

[tasKer]

what do you think about this FIRST cycle?

week 1-12 Test e. 250mg each week
week 1-10 Deca 200mg each week
20mg ED accutane (for control acne...i'm prone)

PCT:
start 2 weeks after last injection

Days 1 - 14 = 40mg Nolva ed
Days 15 - 28 = 20mg of Nolva

[Ernst]

I've seen your pics. You have a solid base and are of a good age.

Try just 500mg test e for 12 weeks, split into two injections per week. Accutane is pretty harsh from what I hear. I'd avoid it and try other measures if possible, but you know yourself better than I do. Nolva only pct is weak. Clomid, Nolva, and perhaps Aromasin would be a good combo. It would be good to have some adex for any estro sides that may arise while on. I'm also a fan of keeping some letro and extra nolva in the bottom drawer. Better to have it and not need it than the other way around.

[IM708]

Skip the deca like stick to 500mg per week of test e. If you want to kickstart low dose d-bol 1-4 would work as well, it is optional though.

PCT should be very simple:

Nolva
40-20-20-20
Clomid
100-50-50-50 or 50-50-50-50

AI on hand if needed during cycle

[tasKer]

I've seen your pics. You have a solid base and are of a good age.

Try just 500mg test e for 12 weeks, split into two injections per week. Accutane is pretty harsh from what I hear. I'd avoid it and try other measures if possible, but you know yourself better than I do. Nolva only pct is weak. Clomid, Nolva, and perhaps Aromasin would be a good combo. It would be good to have some adex for any estro sides that may arise while on. I'm also a fan of keeping some letro and extra nolva in the bottom drawer. Better to have it and not need it than the other way around.

Skip the deca like stick to 500mg per week of test e. If you want to kickstart low dose d-bol 1-4 would work as well, it is optional though.

PCT should be very simple:

Nolva
40-20-20-20
Clomid
100-50-50-50 or 50-50-50-50

AI on hand if needed during cycle

thx .

so i can try Test only cycle 12 week...and i use this PCT protocol:

week 14: 40mg ED Nolva and 50mg ED clomid ?
week 15-16-17: 20mg ED Nolva and 50mg ED clomid ?

it's right?

i want use accutane 20mg ED for 12 week becouse now i haven't acne, but 1 year ago I had a lot of acne and i have clear it with accutane...I am afraid that returns out me if i use Test....

with accutane can i control acne side? or test si more power that accutane?

[IM708]

That pct protocol looks good. Don't know anything abut accutane

[tasKer]

after a cycle, will my levels of testosterone return normal or they will be more lower part?

[IM708]

They SHOULD return to normal as long as pct is done correctly.

[tasKer]

They SHOULD return to normal as long as pct is done correctly.

ok...I would not want to return to a worse level of when I have begun the cycle

[IM708]

That's a risk all people have, not just a certain age. You, me, everyone who cycles.

[sigman roid]

ok...I would not want to return to a worse level of when I have begun the cycle

i had an experience a few years ago when i didn't do a proper pct after my cycle and my test levels were really low for a long time my strenght was none existent for months after it was a big eye opener for me and have always done a proper pct since.

[8iron]

Just a comment on the accutane, took it a long time ago so dont know if things have changed, but it works for a while even after u stop using it, keep it on hand if u notice a little acne dont start e/d you might just have to give it a little kick start ever now and then, maybe twice a week and go from there, It is tough on the liver, might want to consider a little liver protection.......just a thought!!!!

[tasKer]

i had an experience a few years ago when i didn't do a proper pct after my cycle and my test levels were really low for a long time my strenght was none existent for months after it was a big eye opener for me and have always done a proper pct since.

but, in a FIRST CYCLE, the PCT should check only the estrogens (i dont use HCG)...why should he also influence the levels of testosterone?

I would not want, once ended the cycle, to become a shit...

why to make a cycle if then i return worse of before?

[sigman roid]

follow the pct suggested by ironmaiden and you will be fine