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    Almost ready to stick

    Hey guys, I've done some research on this site and forum. I've learned that test should be my first cycle. I would have liked to go with test e, or c. How ever it is not available to me. I won't order from anyone but my friend. He only has sust250, with novldex and clomid, milk thistle for my pct. From what I've read about, it's not the best because of the esters? But would it be alright for a first timer? 250mg a week to see how i react. Spot inject with a 22ga. 1" 3cc syringe into thigh, alternating, or 1.5" into glute. I'm just about 30 here in in couple. I'm 69" 180lbs., 30inch waist. I don't know my exact body fat, by that inacurrate machine I'm 13.5%. I know I have to get some one to take it accurately, but i'm guessing or rather hoping I'm within 2%. My deit is good, however after reading dieting on here I do need to add more meat protien and complex carbs. I have cut sugars(sodas, ketchup) out of my diet of course. I have Been disiplined enough that I always make it to the gym and have a plan that takes 90-120min. a day including cardio 6 days a week and a 10mile bike on sunday. Sorry about the novel guys just excited to be here. Good health to all of you!

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    should be ok although its better to shoot sust every few days. Id personally go with more than 250mg a wk for first cycle but some people will grow just fine. maybe try 3/4 cc twice a week

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    Shoot it eod. I did sus my first cycle.

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    I have enough to do 500mgs a week 250 on monday, 250 on thursday. My friend wants me to introduce a small amount of deca, like 1ml a week for 10 weeks with the 1cc of sust. But from what I read on here I would be better sticking to just sust. If I was to add anything some people are using stanozolol to finish up thier cycle.(like last 5 weeks). Would either of those be benefical? Nice pic of Jenna!

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    Optimal is shot eod...leave out the other crap. You will make great gains off test only.

    Thanks..My favorite pic of jenna


    Quote Originally Posted by CJ. View Post
    I have enough to do 500mgs a week 250 on monday, 250 on thursday. My friend wants me to introduce a small amount of deca, like 1ml a week for 10 weeks with the 1cc of sust. But from what I read on here I would be better sticking to just sust. If I was to add anything some people are using stanozolol to finish up thier cycle.(like last 5 weeks). Would either of those be benefical? Nice pic of Jenna!

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    I'd like to know what is you're friends reasoning behind him wanting you to inject 1ml of deca per wk for 10wks?
    PS, just stick with test mate, why mess about, we don't say test only for a first cycle for the fun bud.

    PPS, you can happily shoot sust 2 x wk, christ iv'e been doing every which way for 20 + years.

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    thanks for the great info!! I'm gonna research more on dieting, change up my meals a bit and stick it. One post cycle question though, "Clomid 80mgs first day, then 40mgs/day for 2weeks, followed by 20mgs/day last week, plus 1 nov. a day for 30 days. start 2 weeks after cycle. Should I take more? Thanks for all the help!
    Last edited by CJ.; 04-16-2009 at 11:29 AM. Reason: spelling

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    just read the gyno sticky!! Scared the hell out of me. Should my pct be okay foer what i am doing? I have to find out about adex and letro from my friend. S##t!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ. View Post
    thanks for the great info!! I'm gonna research more on dieting, change up my meals a bit and stick it. One post cycle question though, "Clomid 80mgs first day, then 40mgs/day for 2weeks, followed by 20mgs/day last week, plus 1 nov. a day for 30 days. start 2 weeks after cycle. Should I take more? Thanks for all the help!
    I'm so confused by the way you laid that out.

    right it out in a readable format

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    CJ,

    Don't worry about the PCT. It's not as big of deal as you might think. Yes, you should do one for sure but you have to work with what's best for you.

    As for your first cycle, I agree with what someone else said, "leave out all the other crap" just use sus250 2 x week. You sound just like me 3 months ago! I did my first cycle on sus250 2 x per week, Monday's and Thursday's. After the 3rd week, I saw incredible gaines! I'm on Nova and Proviron now and keeping my gaines. I'll start again in 12 weeks once I finish PCT.

    The first time I stuck myself (in the glute) I was scared, but after I did it, it was no big deal. Believe it or not, I actually enjoy it now. I do my right cheek on monday's and left cheek on thursday's; works for me.

    Welcome to the site Great information here. Take all advise carefully. Remember advise is only one person's opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derek7m View Post
    I'm so confused by the way you laid that out.

    right it out in a readable format
    sorry, and thanks!

    start of pct 2 weeks after end of cycle.

    clomid-
    80mgs on day1
    40mgs every day- days 2-15(2 weeks)
    20mgs every day- days 16-22(1 week)

    nolvadex-1 pill a day for 30 days to be taken along with clomid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironmanron View Post
    CJ,

    Don't worry about the PCT. It's not as big of deal as you might think. Yes, you should do one for sure but you have to work with what's best for you.

    As for your first cycle, I agree with what someone else said, "leave out all the other crap" just use sus250 2 x week. You sound just like me 3 months ago! I did my first cycle on sus250 2 x per week, Monday's and Thursday's. After the 3rd week, I saw incredible gaines! I'm on Nova and Proviron now and keeping my gaines. I'll start again in 12 weeks once I finish PCT.

    The first time I stuck myself (in the glute) I was scared, but after I did it, it was no big deal. Believe it or not, I actually enjoy it now. I do my right cheek on monday's and left cheek on thursday's; works for me.

    Welcome to the site Great information here. Take all advise carefully. Remember advise is only one person's opinion.
    Thanks Ironmanron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironmanron View Post
    CJ,

    Don't worry about the PCT. It's not as big of deal as you might think. Yes, you should do one for sure but you have to work with what's best for you.

    As for your first cycle, I agree with what someone else said, "leave out all the other crap" just use sus250 2 x week. You sound just like me 3 months ago! I did my first cycle on sus250 2 x per week, Monday's and Thursday's. After the 3rd week, I saw incredible gaines! I'm on Nova and Proviron now and keeping my gaines. I'll start again in 12 weeks once I finish PCT.

    The first time I stuck myself (in the glute) I was scared, but after I did it, it was no big deal. Believe it or not, I actually enjoy it now. I do my right cheek on monday's and left cheek on thursday's; works for me.

    Welcome to the site Great information here. Take all advise carefully. Remember advise is only one person's opinion.

    Your "opinion" in this case, (statements highlighted) is fukin terrible. Are you fukin kidding? Not a big deal? You have no business giving advice like that....you are the guy who swells up on cycle and looks like you havent done a damn thing but waste your $$$ a few months later!

    OP, you do NEED PCT. It IS a big deal! Get your body back to a natural state as quickly as possible, reduce sides and potential for health problems, not to mention you wont lose your gains.... I would say that warrants it being a big deal! The last highlighted statement is the ttruth and especially in this case!

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    Back to the RESEARCH on pct!!! Thanks spartan! I've read all sorts of ways and doseages to take pct and I just don't know whats best yet. Any help? I'm gonna go read up some more but it does get a little confusing. I want all bases covered before I start. Definitly a sign I'm not ready to inject yet!! Again thanks bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironmanron View Post
    CJ,

    Don't worry about the PCT. It's not as big of deal as you might think. Yes, you should do one for sure but you have to work with what's best for you.

    Remember advise is only one person's opinion.

    Are u fvcking kidding me, dont listen to this, just in case u need two opinons.....

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