Long cycle after long time off - please critique

[davidinvienna]

been off since Nov 08, planning on starting up again July 09. been doin loads of cardio and strength resistance training so leaned out quite nicely. am planning to do 24weeks lookin somewhat like that:

(btw: 30yo/177cm/76kg/11%bf - not a BB; more into MA/MMA and mil style training regimes)

Test E, 24 wks;

1- 8 500mg
9-16 750mg
17-20 500mg
21-24 250mg


Test Prop, kickstart 4 wks;

1-4 100mg eod


EQ, 14 wks;

4-17 600mg


Mast E, 14 wks;

4-17 400mg


The alternative would be to cut out the EQ and swap Mast E for 8weeks of Mast P also including Tren A for 8 weeks. Bit concerned bout Tren effect on cardio though.

Am looking forward to your advice.

[murphylee]

damn 24 weeks....isn't that a long time?

[davidinvienna]

yup - seems to be what quite a few guys do round here though so I thought I'll give it a try

[davidinvienna]

no feedback??

[Immortal Soldier]

Too much for a comeback cycle, first of all 24 weeks of Test will stagnate and don't pyramid the dosages that is stupid.

1-14 Test-e 500-600mg
1-13 Tren Ace 50mg ED
1-4 Prop kickstart
1-10 EQ 600mg/week

Something like that will be alot better and you can cycle again in less time. No reason to be on cycle 6 months.

[davidinvienna]

hey - thanks for the input

what about the general info bout usually runnin Tren A for 8 weeks and EQ for no less than 14?

[Immortal Soldier]

hey - thanks for the input

what about the general info bout usually runnin Tren A for 8 weeks and EQ for no less than 14?

Generally first time users should run Tren A between 8-10 weeks anything above that is for more experienced users, so if it is your first time I recommend dropping the Tren A to 10 weeks and dropping the test-e to 12 weeks and running the EQ still for 10 or even 12 weeks.

I haven't heard anything about running EQ for 14 weeks or more, doesn't make sense since most cycles are in the 12 week range. Dosage should be rather high for EQ (600mg+/week) to get the full effects

[HOUTXSALES09]

hey soldier ima newb ..obviously i jus got my ass reemed for askin about sum gear wut rules do i need 2 comply with when askin....thanx

[Immortal Soldier]

hey soldier ima newb ..obviously i jus got my ass reemed for askin about sum gear wut rules do i need 2 comply with when askin....thanx

Unfortunately this board doesn't allow sources to be discussed. However, if you stay on this board long enough you will get sources sooner or later.

[hankdiesel]

I hear eq needs to be ran for 14-16 weeks. It's all over these boards. It is complete bs! This would mean you'd have to run test for 16-18 weeks every cycle you run eq.

[davidinvienna]

1-12 Test E 500mg
1- 4 Prop Kickstart
1-10 EQ 600mg
1- 8 Tren 50mg ed - possibly go for Tren E 1-10 if it's available.

[wackod2]

1-12 Test E 500mg
1- 4 Prop Kickstart
1-10 EQ 600mg
1- 8 Tren 50mg ed - possibly go for Tren E 1-10 if it's available.

run tren A, like everyone else has said, if you get bad sides then your stuck with em for a few weeks....