week 4 into cycle and don't feel anything

[mic.p]

Hey guys, i'm now coming to the end of my 4th week in a prop cycle and i dont feel fvck all. Infact i'm feeling a little lazy and un motivated to train, i don't think i have any signs of gyno but i'm wondering if maybe my body is converting too much test to estrogen and that's why i don't feel anything.
I mean i supose i was expecting a feeling of wellbeing and feeling great in general being super horney etc.
Things you guys should know,
1) this is my first cycle ever
2) i'm 42 years old 5' 10" b/f ranges from 8 to 12 %
3) i've trained naturaly on and off since my mid 20's
4) on my natural training stints i go from 185lbs to 208lbs the whole idea of doing this cycle was to surpass 208lbs and maybe get to 220lbs
5) cycle consists of 500mg of test prop per week with injections e/d. Four days ago i ncreased the dose to 700 mg per week injecting 1ml per day per injection.
Questions,
1) should i take an AI or serm while on cycle to cut down estrogen i only have nolva clomid and letro which i had planned for PCT i 'm a bit scared of estrogen rebound.
Any genuine advice is greatly appreciated.

[Dizz28]

You feel nothing? probably fake gear

[lord henry]

4 weeks into prop and feeling nothing =bunk gear.

i felt sex drive after 3 100mgs shots .

[mic.p]

Geez i hope it's not fake, i know the guy pretty well!
Is it possible that it takes the body a little while to get used to it first time?

[jamyjamjr]

nope.. 90% chance u have fake gear

[mic.p]

This fvcken sucks bigtime!

[XNathan]

Test E injection with 250mg. Next day elevated HR. Second day increased sexdrive another injection 250mg next day... oh my god! Walking erection!

Another shot... 9lbs up in one week libido insane, great mood, pumps in gym etc.

Some talks about 4wks to feel test is joke to me.

Dude your gear si fake!

[XNathan]

Personaly I feel prop after 1-2hours and enanthate next day.

[BIG_TRUCK]

Test E injection with 250mg. Next day elevated HR. Second day increased sexdrive another injection 250mg next day... oh my god! Walking erection!

Another shot... 9lbs up in one week libido insane, great mood, pumps in gym etc.

Some talks about 4wks to feel test is joke to me.

Dude your gear si fake!

I find it a joke that you actually think it's test causing you to feel different in 2 days while on a long ester!

Someone could sell you some sugar pills and say they were anavar and you would be talking about how your 'leaning up' and strength gains through the roof....lol

[Friend]

10-12 hrs after banging prop and i'm jacked

[auslifta]

doesnt sound right, I'd put it down to fake gear with what you have said

[XNathan]

I find it a joke that you actually think it's test causing you to feel different in 2 days while on a long ester!

Someone could sell you some sugar pills and say they were anavar and you would be talking about how your 'leaning up' and strength gains through the roof....lol

Have you ever seen your blood test after one shot? Second day after shot its 3 times higher than my average! Do you ever read about non-genomic action on CNS? Genomic action take 72hours to start and many days to bring noticable effects this is IMO your "kick in", maximum effect in gym (this take 3-4wks). ...

But effect on HR, mood and libido is mediated directly by non-genomic action and this you can fell right after exogenous test reach your sensitive tissues. And as I type above its in hours. If you think somethink else you are wrong.

[Dizz28]

I find it a joke that you actually think it's test causing you to feel different in 2 days while on a long ester!

Testosterone levels start to rise whithin 24hours of injection

[sigman roid]

if your on your 4th week of prop and still feeling knothing i would say the gear is shvt personally it has never taken any longer than aweek for me to feel a difference

[chuckt12345]

Have you ever seen your blood test after one shot? Second day after shot its 3 times higher than my average! Do you ever read about non-genomic action on CNS? Genomic action take 72hours to start and many days to bring noticable effects this is IMO your "kick in", maximum effect in gym (this take 3-4wks). ...

But effect on HR, mood and libido is mediated directly by non-genomic action and this you can fell right after exogenous test reach your sensitive tissues. And as I type above its in hours. If you think somethink else you are wrong.

Placibo effect

[Akrobatik]

This fvcken sucks bigtime!

Kill him.

[Dizz28]

Placibo effect

Testosterone levels start to rise within 24hours of injection

[mic.p]

Does dianabol actually elevate your sex drive

[BIG_TRUCK]

Testosterone levels start to rise within 24hours of injection

If you think in a time frame of 24 hours your levels rise to any noticeable levels than you are mistaken.

[BIG_TRUCK]

Placibo effect

Yep.

[Big]

Does dianabol actually elevate your sex drive

nope

[mic.p]

Do you get any sort of feeling at all from dianabol

[Dizz28]

If you think in a time frame of 24 hours your levels rise to any noticeable levels than you are mistaken.

Yes they do

[roserose]

If your up to 700mg a week and feel nothing its fake.

[Hazard]

I feel my sexdrive increase after my second shot of Test E..... i'd say maybe day 7 or so...... You should DEFINATELY be feeling your prop.... especially at 700mg's/wk. I'd goto him and tell him you don't feel a thing..... the gear is probably bunk.

On Dbol..... i start to feel lightly "pumped" all the time after the 1st week. Like the muscle bellies are full of water...... but no water is visible in the mirror for me. My workouts are insane too..... wayyy better pumps and strength is really up by the end of week 2 going into 3.

~Haz~

[ni4ni]

time for an a$$ beatn

[T20]

Maybe your SHBG levels are high and the majority of the test your injecting is bound inactive... A few people have had this problem on the forum. You should get blood work and find out.

[turk1968]

Post a picture of your prop and you will get good feed back as to whether it is real or not. Me personally I love prop and feel a big difference in about a week and my strength starts to increase in the second week. I would say bunk gear mate!!.

[G-Dog82]

I'm on my first cycle of Prop first bit over a week down... Maybe placebo but am feeling fu@king awesome. Would say i've seen any gains in size as of yet but don't expect till next week or so. Just hornier and happier...haha... prop if real is the ducksnuts!