Tren A/ Test E

[hockeyguy]

OK guys this will be my 2nd full cycle (1st one got cut short because of an injury) Thinking about running Test e/Tren A but wondering if since I'm using test e if I should start that a few weeks before the Tren just because I heard tren can shut you down fast and with test e being a longer acting ester. Not sure just a thought. Please give your thoughts.

1-12 Test E 500mg per week
4-12 Tren A 75mg ed
Armidex .25 ed

32
5'7
185

[johnnybigguns]

What was your first cycle?
You might want to hold off on the tren and try deca or something easier on you.
I definitely wouldn't start my tren dose at 75mg.
I would start at 50mg ed

[_CrossroadS_]

Yah. My first tren cycle was 30mg ed and upped to 50mg's the last half of the cycle. I was single though, and it was ok that I sweated like a french whore in church at night, and slept 4 hours max. Tren's a great compound, but make sure you are prepared for the sides at that high of a dose. Some here run it much higher, but they expect the sides.


What are the goals of the cycle, and your stats?

[hockeyguy]

First cycle was test e 9 weeks cut short 2nd cycle was teste 12 weeks.
What about dropping it to 50mg ed or what about 100mg eod? I see another thread about the same subject and some say you can run it eod and other say ed.
Stats are on the first on not sure on BF. The goal would be to bulk up.

[WARMachine]

OK guys this will be my 2nd full cycle (1st one got cut short because of an injury) Thinking about running Test e/Tren A but wondering if since I'm using test e if I should start that a few weeks before the Tren just because I heard tren can shut you down fast and with test e being a longer acting ester. Not sure just a thought. Please give your thoughts.

1-12 Test E 500mg per week
4-12 Tren A 75mg ed
Armidex .25 ed

32
5'7
185

Shut down is shut down. After about 1 1/2 weeks of Test E, youll be completely shut down. So what would be the point of waiting on the Tren?

Also, pin Tren A ED. EOD is half assed. And if youre gonna pin ED anyway, might as well use Prop.

Also like someone said above, drop the dose to 50mgs ED. For first time use.

[hockeyguy]

So 50mg seems to be a solid starting point. As for running prop I understand that point but have test e on hand. I've seen some say its ok to run tren eod? I just thought since it will take 4-5 weeks for the test to build up to start the tren on week 4.

So is it not a good idea to run test e with tren?

[jeffefrijoles]

You can run it with Test E, but prop is more ideal as they have said. Both would be shorter esters and you can pin together. Heck, you could even brew a blend... I know a guy who is doing just that!

[hockeyguy]

I'll have to see if I can get some prop from my source. Right now I was lucking to get my hands on a lot of test e so I'd like to use it up. Lets say I do stick with the test e can I put both in the same pin when I shoot on the same day?

[skeldno]

is that not a better idea waiting till week 4 to start the tren?

I know that i would rather do that as if i had deca dick my missis wouldnt be happy!!!!

I think its fine mate! If your a virgin then there is no point waiting but if you need your tool then carry on! :-)

[alpmaster]

The test is test and will work fine, it's just that the ester makes it take longer for the build up of steady blood levels. But if you shoot prop or enth, your test levels are still going to go up within 48 hours.

[busaboy27]

what he was trying to say was he is gonna start the tren later.. because the enanthate takes couple weeks atleast to kick in. the tren will suppress his test levels before the test kicks in.. if i jump on it again i would do 150 eod of tren or 75 a day... just prepare for the sides and thats it.... u need some caber...... i think thats a little high on arimidex i dont know why but i was thinking .5 ed. could be wrong

[hockeyguy]

what he was trying to say was he is gonna start the tren later.. because the enanthate takes couple weeks atleast to kick in. the tren will suppress his test levels before the test kicks in.. if i jump on it again i would do 150 eod of tren or 75 a day... just prepare for the sides and thats it.... u need some caber...... i think thats a little high on arimidex i dont know why but i was thinking .5 ed. could be wrong

Thanks. You hit it on on the head. I'm going to use adex at .25 eod
Is caber best used on cycle or PCT?