First cycle 6weeks -> Test prop, Tren ace, Masteron, Proviron [already doing it]

[Zekinha]

Starting lifting with 16 y/o and I am currently 23 y/o, I have gyno from puberty, to counter it I have been always on one digit of BF 5-7%.

I started my first cycle with 50mg Test prop, 50mg Tren ace,50mg Masteron EOD and 25mg proviron ED, I have completed today the third week... My question is:
So far I have gained 20lbs will my gains keep coming? I am currently with 8% BF (same machine as always), I don't see an increase in vascularity but maybe because I was already veiny as hell also I have to mention so far I had zero negative sides.

p.s. I am doing a clean bulk and I am a bodybuilder, the man that is doing my prep told me to not do PCT instead stay on TRT till next cycle... is it wise?

[kronik420]

so much wrong with this post... where to start.....

zero negative sides? have you had blood work to confirm that? just because you feel ok on the outside doesn't mean your body is ok on the inside...

test, tren, and mast on your first cycle... kinda overkill.. test alone would have sufficed...

PCT and take adequate time off between cycles or you will end up on TRT.. which you should want to avoid...

lastly, your 3 weeks in and asking questions now?? educate before you medicate.

[kronik420]

oh and you don't walk around at 5-7% bf, maybe that's what your 'machine' says, but it IS inaccurate, you could probably add another 3-10% on top of that number, use bodpod or similar for better readings..

[Zekinha]

Well I bet the machine isn't the most suitable for having an 100% accurate BF but at least is the same machine that I have used for years and that gives some comfort? (Since in the past I have seen 19% on that haha)
I did blood work before cycle and I will do after cycle I don't think I need to do on cycle since I am taking a lot of stuff for kidneys and liver support and my BP is 12/6. My main question was about PCT versus TRT but I will likely do PCT since I have all the stuff already bought.

[numbere]

Well I bet the machine isn't the most suitable for having an 100% accurate BF but at least is the same machine that I have used for years and that gives some comfort? (Since in the past I have seen 19% on that haha)
I did blood work before cycle and I will do after cycle I don't think I need to do on cycle since I am taking a lot of stuff for kidneys and liver support and my BP is 12/6. My main question was about PCT versus TRT but I will likely do PCT since I have all the stuff already bought.

I don't normally respond to posts when the OP is under 25 because I feel AAS use before this time is irresponsible. There are a few things I don't like about your cycle but I don't want to delve too deeply. Having a sensitive hormone panel mid cycle is crucial. You need to see how high your E2 is so you can adjust your AI accordingly. Having an E2 that is out of range is very unhealthy for many reasons. Having a high E2 greatly increases the risk of cardiovascular disease.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

So you have always been 5-7% body fat.
You are at 8% body fat now.
You've been 19% body fat.

Do you see the contradiction?

[Zekinha]

I don't normally respond to posts when the OP is under 25 because I feel AAS use before this time is irresponsible. There are a few things I don't like about your cycle but I don't want to delve too deeply. Having a sensitive hormone panel mid cycle is crucial. You need to see how high your E2 is so you can adjust your AI accordingly. Having an E2 that is out of range is very unhealthy for many reasons. Having a high E2 greatly increases the risk of cardiovascular disease.

Tbh I think my E2 levels are at normal range since masteron and proviron are freeing up the testo and I dont see unusual water retention, I would be more concern about prolactin levels but I am taking 0,5mg caber e4d plus 200mg vit b6 as Pyridoxine HCL ED.

So you have always been 5-7% body fat.
You are at 8% body fat now.
You've been 19% body fat.

Do you see the contradiction?

23-16 = 7years plenty of time to reach one single digit m8

[lovbyts]

Where to start? I'm hoping it's just a troll due to all the BS contradictions and over the top statements. Post a picture of your single digit body fat please.
PCT vs HRT? Can you say apples to oranges? Do you know what they stand for? If you do then there is no reason for the question.

I'm still going with Troll

[numbere]

[QUOTE=Zekinha;6902554]Tbh I think my E2 levels are at normal range since masteron and proviron are freeing up the testo and I dont see unusual water retention, I would be more concern about prolactin levels but I am taking 0,5mg caber e4d plus 200mg vit b6 as Pyridoxine HCL ED.

Well you know the saying "ignorance is bliss". It's absolutely silly not to have your hormone levels checked while on cycle. You can see water retention but you can't see a thrombosis forming. This cycle is a complete mess with a good chance of going nuclear because you are too young to be using AAS, using too many compounds for a first cycle, cycling with pubertal gyno, no mention of an AI or hCG, no mid cycle BW, and at 23 your not even sure if PCT is necessary. You should consider stopping now before you have major issues. Best of luck with this cycle OP.

[Zekinha]

Well I want do PCT but my prep told me not to maybe you guys need to buy glasses? And tbh just the first guy answered my question you guys just came here to throw shit just because!

Tbh I dont know if this shit is a single digit of BF but I will let the "gurus" of forum say.

[NACH3]

You also stated your a bodybuilder.... I too, would like to see some pics to back yourself up! First cycle should be test only... You haven't even posted your stats either! How can we help if we don't know anything about you...

Also, your in your 3rd wk... What AI are you using??? I hope you are at least started runnin hCG from the rip, my man! Should you PCT?? That's the best/& only way (on this cycle and at 23 yrs old) that you may be able to recover, if you recover!! I would stop this cycle and PCT... Rite away!

[Zekinha]

[QUOTE=numbere;6902563]

Tbh I think my E2 levels are at normal range since masteron and proviron are freeing up the testo and I dont see unusual water retention, I would be more concern about prolactin levels but I am taking 0,5mg caber e4d plus 200mg vit b6 as Pyridoxine HCL ED.

Well you know the saying "ignorance is bliss". It's absolutely silly not to have your hormone levels checked while on cycle. You can see water retention but you can't see a thrombosis forming. This cycle is a complete mess with a good chance of going nuclear because you are too young to be using AAS, using too many compounds for a first cycle, cycling with pubertal gyno, no mention of an AI or hCG, no mid cycle BW, and at 23 your not even sure if PCT is necessary. You should consider stopping now before you have major issues. Best of luck with this cycle OP.

oh yah brah i am doing hcg at the end of cycle

[Zekinha]

You also stated your a bodybuilder.... I too, would like to see some pics to back yourself up! First cycle should be test only... You haven't even posted your stats either! How can we help if we don't know anything about you...

Also, your in your 3rd wk... What AI are you using??? I hope you are at least started runnin hCG from the rip, my man! Should you PCT?? That's the best/& only way (on this cycle and at 23 yrs old) that you may be able to recover, if you recover!! I would stop this cycle and PCT... Rite away!

1,72cm - 86kg
To be honest I dont do this to be healthy so I couldn't care less if I have to be in TRT for rest of my life! I just want win

[itsjayman02]

1,72cm - 86kg
To be honest I dont do this to be healthy so I couldn't care less if I have to be in TRT for rest of my life! I just want win

Good luck then !!!!