Is whey protein worth the money?

[Polska]

I recently read a thread by pinnacle stating that whey protein was the biggest sham of a supplement out there. Stating that it only has around a 12% absorption rate. I've used it for many years and hate to think I've been wasting my time and money....

[eatrainrest]

id like to see the study whey concentrate or isolate?

[D7M]

where's the thread link?

might be not that whey is a scam, but the amount of whey people consume at one sitting is too high, and the body cannot properly process it.

[eatrainrest]

where's the thread link?

might be not that whey is a scam, but the amount of whey people consume at one sitting is too high, and the body cannot properly process it.

id hold whey to 50g or less, but there is no science to tell you exactly how much is too much

[CHAP]

yes it is worth it unless you can consume all your proyein need through foods.

[D7M]

id hold whey to 50g or less, but there is no science to tell you exactly how much is too much

if there is no science behind it,

why would put it at 50g or less?

[eatrainrest]

if there is no science behind it,

why would put it at 50g or less?

because i want to equally distribute my protein throughout the day based on its total

[MACKATTACK]

I think Whey Protein is definitely worth it. Using a Whey Protein for my PWO this past week I have seen better gains and less time to recooperate. This is the first time I am specifically using Whey as a PWO and the differences are def there. Do NOT always believe everything you read on a website/forum, even if a member has been here a long time.

Do your own research and take everything in, not just one opinnion.........

[DKU]

From what I've read it has one of the highest bioavailability percentages of any protein. I don't know if that's different from absorbtion rate.

[Jfew44]

I can definately tell when I run out of whey. My recovery takes longer and I get cranky. Seriously though, I do what works for me, and whey works.

[collar]

i keep my whey about 30-40g nothing more, i just think that works best for me.
also its not waste of money.
things like get massive pump or gain 233984438743798347398lb in 8 weeks supplements are gay.

[Andro9]

From what I've read it has one of the highest bioavailability percentages of any protein. I don't know if that's different from absorbtion rate.

thats true eggs used to be the gold standard before whey its bioavalibility rating is 100, whey is 150, when compared to everything else it is far superior even to casein which is at 85 or so. this info is from my book from ISSA on Sports performance nutrition. whey is a great addition to a solid diet. A protein's usefullness is based on the amino acids that its made of( body uses different amino acids for different functions ). same with fats.

[Andro9]

I recently read a thread by pinnacle stating that whey protein was the biggest sham of a supplement out there. Stating that it only has around a 12% absorption rate. I've used it for many years and hate to think I've been wasting my time and money....

your not, that claim is ridiculous

[Phate]

I recently read a thread by pinnacle stating that whey protein was the biggest sham of a supplement out there. Stating that it only has around a 12% absorption rate. I've used it for many years and hate to think I've been wasting my time and money....

your not, that claim is ridiculous

i would like to see evidence both ways for this, uncited claims are pointless

[jfalco]

i would like to see evidence both ways for this, uncited claims are pointless

Smartest thing I've ever read on this board.

[Polska]

your not, that claim is ridiculous

The claim was verified by a couple vets. Apparently something about it being so quickly digesting, that a huge influx of amino acids get released and the body cannot absorb them all at once. Only something like 12% gets absorbed and the rest excreted

[Polska]

I'll dig up the thread. Unfortunately they had nothing cited to verify.

[eatrainrest]

The claim was verified by a couple vets. Apparently something about it being so quickly digesting, that a huge influx of amino acids get released and the body cannot absorb them all at once. Only something like 12% gets absorbed and the rest excreted

so there saying that 10g of whey only 12% would be absorbed? i dont know know how you can pin a certain gram and generalize that only 12% gets absorbed, if nobody can rightfully answer how many grams in one sitting a person can digest. shit like that would make headlines lol

[-Ender-]

how did you arrive at 50 grams max?
I am assuming that you are meaning 50g at a time, several times throughout the day.?
I’m not going to argue, I’m just very curious.
Also: are you meaning 50g of pure whey? Or the “blends” that a lot of the Supp. Stores sell?

[eatrainrest]

how did you arrive at 50 grams max?
I am assuming that you are meaning 50g at a time, several times throughout the day.?
I’m not going to argue, I’m just very curious.
Also: are you meaning 50g of pure whey? Or the “blends” that a lot of the Supp. Stores sell?

if the question is asked to me i already answered that the post under

[-Ender-]

if the question is asked to me i already answered that the post under

Sorry for the confusion
I only asked because I had experimented with dosage rates and found that 50g (per sitting) was about max based on lactose content. Much more than that and the GI gets upset and leads to production of a lot of gas.

[jamyjamjr]

this all seems wrong to me... im not sure of the absorbtion level of whey per-say.. but it's been the gold standard for pwo since the animal farm industry came out with it...

[-Ender-]

this all seems wrong to me... im not sure of the absorbtion level of whey per-say.. but it's been the gold standard for pwo since the animal farm industry came out with it...

Don't get me wrong...
Whey is an awesome source of protein. I would never attempt to argue that.
I was mearly inquiring as to why the 50g max was mentioned.
It mirrored what I have noticed with pure whey and high lactose content.
With that in mind: maybe what alot of stores are selling buffered crap and it doesn't have much whey in it.
That 12% is bull****. Just ask the veal people. They study bovine diet to an extreme, and use whey by the trainload for feed.

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

do you NEED whey to grow LBM? NO
But, is it a convenient method to supplement your regular meals (PreWO or PWO)? YES
Can/Should it replace a whole meal? NO
Can your body absorb most of it? YES (if taken in quantities relevant to your training/lifestyle)
Is it worth the money? YES (especially brands that sell basic whey at decent prices without all that marketing cr@p to hike up the novelty value; whey is whey)

[clancywiggum]

Don't get me wrong...

With that in mind: maybe what alot of stores are selling buffered crap and it doesn't have much whey in it.

this has always been an issue with me: what the hell is actually in the pro powder??

While I'm not doubting that whey is an effective protein, I do doubt the ability to absorb it in its powdered form. I also question the source of the whey, as we don't know for sure the level of processing it goes through to end up in powder form, as very processed foods are often fortified and poor sources for nutrients.

I don't know why it seems like such a radical or wrong idea that whey isn't absorbed as well as we would like to think. Just an opinion....

[Phate]

do you NEED whey to grow LBM? NO
But, is it a convenient method to supplement your regular meals (PreWO or PWO)? YES
Can/Should it replace a whole meal? NO
Can your body absorb most of it? YES (if taken in quantities relevant to your training/lifestyle)
Is it worth the money? YES (especially brands that sell basic whey at decent prices without all that marketing cr@p to hike up the novelty value; whey is whey)

agreed 100%, great post bro