Advice with short cycle

[paddy155]

I have been reading alot lately past threads about primming the body before beginning a cycle. I have also read about the cycle length which should be around 30 days depending on cycle history and experience etc. The problem is I do not like ED or EOD injections. 2 a week is enough for me. I also know that my body reacts well to test enth. Is there anyway that I can use test enth in a short cycle of 6 weeks max but still get the full benefit from it. I know personally that test enth takes around 5 wks to kick in with me when dosing at 500mg per wk but then again I have never front loaded before. And if I had to front load,how much would I need to take to get the enth to fully kick in. Previous cycles in the past have been a mess,so ging back to basics,keeping it simple on low doses and seeing how my body reacts. Is there another compound which is not to harsh that I could use with the enth for building size ?

[chuckt12345]

i really dont see a point in a 6 wkr if you wont shoot ed/eod

[T-MOS]

I think you answered your own question. Test E is gonna take 4-6 weeks to kick in, even if you frontload it would still take at least 4 weeks to kick in.

short cycles are for short esters and ED pinning

[marcus300]

I have been reading alot lately past threads about primming the body before beginning a cycle. I have also read about the cycle length which should be around 30 days depending on cycle history and experience etc. The problem is I do not like ED or EOD injections. 2 a week is enough for me. I also know that my body reacts well to test enth. Is there anyway that I can use test enth in a short cycle of 6 weeks max but still get the full benefit from it. I know personally that test enth takes around 5 wks to kick in with me when dosing at 500mg per wk but then again I have never front loaded before. And if I had to front load,how much would I need to take to get the enth to fully kick in. Previous cycles in the past have been a mess,so ging back to basics,keeping it simple on low doses and seeing how my body reacts. Is there another compound which is not to harsh that I could use with the enth for building size ?

The 30 day cycles you mentioned are burst cycling which is only for the advanced. If your going to do a short cycle normally short ester's are used and this means ED/EOD injection, if this doesnt suit i would stay away from these types of cycles and go with what your comfortable with.

[paddy155]

It is not burst cycling I want to use. It is short cycles. I knew myself before writing the thread that if I really wanted to do short cycles, then I would have to use ED or EOD injections. It may not suit me but I will get more comfortable with it. I just want to learn how to prime the body to get the most out of each cycle. Cycle and then recover as quickly as possible to maintain gains. Marcus,I have read a thread you done a while back and you mentioned that the best way you found is 3-5 days low carb 40% less than maintenance followed by a high carb day 15% higher than maintenance. Could you explain to me a little more as how to do this. I am a little confused how many days should be low carbs and how many high and in what rotation ? Also how do you know when your body is primmed and ready. Is there any time scale ? Thanks

[marcus300]

It is not burst cycling I want to use. It is short cycles. I knew myself before writing the thread that if I really wanted to do short cycles, then I would have to use ED or EOD injections. It may not suit me but I will get more comfortable with it. I just want to learn how to prime the body to get the most out of each cycle. Cycle and then recover as quickly as possible to maintain gains. Marcus,I have read a thread you done a while back and you mentioned that the best way you found is 3-5 days low carb 40% less than maintenance followed by a high carb day 15% higher than maintenance. Could you explain to me a little more as how to do this. I am a little confused how many days should be low carbs and how many high and in what rotation ? Also how do you know when your body is primmed and ready. Is there any time scale ? Thanks

One of the best primings i have done and many of my client is the above protocol you mentioned above, first you need to be working of a maintenance diet what as been established over a set number of weeks. Then if you use the protocol of 3-5 days low carbs - which is 40% less than your maintenance diet, then thats followed by one day high carbs, which is 15% higher than the maintenance diet, you need to adjust the low carb days to your body thats why i said 3-5 days low carbs, some people prefer 3 days other 5 days, just depends on how your own body reacts. Priming before a cycle should be for around 6-8wks, your body will be like a dried sponge after 6-8 wks worth of priming and you will know its ready. Check my thread out on priming, there loads of information held within it.

[paddy155]

so it would be 3-5 days of low carbs followed by 4 -2 days of high carbs ?

[marcus300]

so it would be 3-5 days of low carbs followed by 4 -2 days of high carbs ?

NO, 3-5 days low, 1 day high then repeat

[garbageman18]

hey man, i am running a test e cycle now 500mg a week but frontloaded the first weekat 1000mgs and was told by another member that frontloading test e was useless for him so i pulled off the frontloading. i just finished 4 weeks and it still hasent kicked in....

[marcus300]

hey man, i am running a test e cycle now 500mg a week but frontloaded the first weekat 1000mgs and was told by another member that frontloading test e was useless for him so i pulled off the frontloading. i just finished 4 weeks and it still hasent kicked in....

So did you frontload or not because you statement doesnt make much sense.

[garbageman18]

i was planning on frontloading for two weeks. after one week i made a post(forgot exactly what it was about) but two people replied in the forums saying thay have frontloaded enanthate and found it useless and a waste of juice so i haulted on the second week of frontloading.

[paddy155]

Thanks Marcus. That has cleared things up.