Question about Test

[Kansas City Boy]

Im thinking about running a cycle

Oral Winny 50mg ed
Equipoise 400 mg ew


and a test... I was thinking enthanate because I have used it previously and really liked it.

Test E
Test Cyp
or
Sust




My first cycle was pretty screwed up.

This cycle consisted of 250mg ew of Test E for 10 weeks
and 200 mg ew of equipoise for 8 weeks ( I know... Stupid)

I saw pretty good gains even though I messed my cycle up big time


I guess I'm more curious to know which Test would work better with the Oral winny and Equipoise.


Thanks for your time



btw


5'8 195 bfc= approx 9-10%

Diet is on target

I have been lifting intensively for over 4 years.


My last cycle was just anavar low dosage ed for 6 weeks to maintain.

[awms]

Just run 400-500mg of test a week with out the eq....If you are worried about sides like bloating you shouldnt be. Im on 400mg test right now and I just keep a low sodium, medium carb diet and so far I havnt bloated much.

My recommendation to you would be to run 400mg test and front load 800-1000mg the first week. If you want you can add winstrol but honestly why rush it? its only your second cycle, and its your first cycle done properly so just take your time...with proper diet and training your will put on solid lean mass with test alone.

[Kansas City Boy]

I was thinking about trying a solid test e only cycle 500mg a week most likely. Just to simplify calculations. 500mg ew seems pretty average from the time I've spent on the board. I really do like equipoise though. Even though I was only on it 8 weeks at a low dosage I still saw the vascularity and really slow lean muscle gains. I loved EQ. I am dying to run it again

[awms]

My first cycle I was going to do 600mg eq with 250mg of test but every one on here was like why? its your first cycle and your gunna prob get the same or better gains with 400-500mg test for alot less money....so I went with test only. So far I dont think I have had any sides (only in week 4) but still its not as bad as I thought.

[awms]

As for vascularity dont worry about that! lol My veins are popin like crazy right now!

[T-MOS]

I was thinking about trying a solid test e only cycle 500mg a week most likely. Just to simplify calculations. 500mg ew seems pretty average from the time I've spent on the board. I really do like equipoise though. Even though I was only on it 8 weeks at a low dosage I still saw the vascularity and really slow lean muscle gains. I loved EQ. I am dying to run it again

layout your cycle in WEEKS and DOSES of each compound so we can help you

like this

Weeks 1-? Test E @ 500mgs/week
Weeks 1-? Eq @ 400mgs/wek
Weeks ?-? winny @ 50 mgs/ed

what will you run for PCT?
I would run the EQ at least 14 weeks and the test 1 or 2 weeks past that
I would run the winny at the end of the cylce, last 6 weeks right up to day before PCT

[Kansas City Boy]

Thank you T-Mos and awms

[Kansas City Boy]

Week 1-15 Test E ew (Split into 250 mg Monday and 250 Thursday)
Week 1-14 Equipoise 400 mg a week


I think Im going to hold out on the winny

What do you think about the pct... I shouldnt need any Nolva or Adex through the cycle. Clomid after the cycle is over at the end of week 15?

[T-MOS]

PCT timing for Test E is 14 days after last injection. so it would start around the beginning of week 18, not end of 15

You should get nolva, and clomid for your pct

you may want an AI on hand for during the cycle if you get bloat or signs of gyno

[Kansas City Boy]

Would it be bad to run nolva through the cycle just the keep the gyno from occurring at all?

[awms]

Would it be bad to run nolva through the cycle just the keep the gyno from occurring at all?

Thats what Im doing. 20mg nolva eod.