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    Newbie Needs Help

    This is my first ever thread and here is the breakdown. I have done 2 so-called cycles before. I am 26 years old and I am new to this but I am trying to learn as much as possible in order to prevent more mistakes. The first time I cycled I used Deca by itself with no pct. I didnt even know how many mg's I was taking a week, I just knew I was doing a couple amps a week, I did this for maybe eight weeks. I know this was idiotic but I didnt think so at the time. This was around six years ago. I have since went through the trials and tribulations of this lifestyle that we all love and I have learned many things along the way, just like how I read about how you should'nt ever take Deca by itself because it almost immediately shuts down your natural production of testosterone.

    My last and only other cycle was last year and I only took EQ 400mgs 1x per week for about ten weeks. I know that most people would not even consider this a cycle either. I gained some strength and size but nothing compared to what I am capable of with my next cycle. The Eq cycle is where I first learned about pct. I took proviron, nolva and clomid. I started the nolva and clomid pretty much right after the last shot of eq which I learned is a mistake also. I am not asking to be critqued on thus factors so far. This is all a learning experience and I am trying to obtain as much knowledge as possible so my next cycle will prevail.

    Here is the main reason I am posting this thread. My next cycle. I already have this gear but after reading many posts from veterans I might have to change my game plan.

    Test E- the cycle is calling for 750mg per week for ten weeks. Im sure that most will agree that this is too much in my situation. I have 38 - 200mg amps. What would be the best range to run the test? 600mg twice a week? how long? 10weeks, 12 weeks?

    EQ- the cycle calls for 600mg a week for 10 weeks. I could take 300 mg 2x a week. I think I might be able to leave this one like it is but if you think otherwise please let me know.

    D-Bol- The cycle calls for 30mg ed for 6 weeks. I think the dosage will be good and I could split it up into 10mg 3x per day, but is six weeks too long or should it be 4.


    Here is the rest of my cycle Week 1-13 is 10 mg nolva ed. Should I be taking nolva during?
    Week 1-16 0.25 Anastrozol eod. How about this?
    Week 1-12 300-500ius of HCG every 5th day////// this is one of my biggest concerns. How should I take hcg? I have read that you shouldnt take it for no more than a few weeks at a time? I read to take it during, and after. I have read so many opinions on how to take hcg and im stuck at a stand still! I know it helps with your natural production of test and it helps with testicle atrophy. I also read that if you take it too long continuously it can affect your natural test production.........what do i do?????????

    And then after the cycle (2 weeks after last shot?) i will run pct
    week 1 40mg nolva/ 100mg clomid ed
    week 2 30mg nolva/ 50mg clomid ed
    week 3 20mg nolva/ 50mg clomid ed

    So that is what I am sitting on. I believe I have the correct gear I just need to implement it correctly. If I shouldnt be taking as much of a certain compound then I can just save it for later. What else could I possibly put in the cycle such as Milk Thistle, acne prevention, needle/syringe sizes or anything else that I could benefit from? I weigh about 215/lean and eat like I should.

    I am sorry that this is probably such a crappy, out of of order thread but I do appreciate opinions from all the salty dogs.
    Last edited by GeneticFreak220!!; 07-03-2009 at 09:06 AM.

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    im glad youve learned from trial and error and arent afraid to admit to it. (its happened to all of us) thanks for the detailed history aswell. the only thing you left out is your age.
    your cycle looks pretty good.
    if i were in your shoes id try this:
    test e 750mg split into 2 doses. (sun,thur)
    eq 600mg 2 doses (sun,thur)
    dbol shouldnt be run any longer than 6wks TOPS. id do 4 wks and see how you feel, bumping it up to 50-60mg ed if needed, but keep it at 4wks.

    leave out the ancillaries (nolva,ana) until post. if you start to get signs of gyno you could use nolva during cycle for that until sides subside, but it can lower gains if used throughout a cycle.
    hcg: youre better to save this for post aswell. take the 500iu twice a wk. 2 wks after your last shot of test. 2 wks of hcg should be all you need, then start the nolva,clomid at the doses you have listed during the last wk of hcg. clomid for 4 wks, and discontinue while running the nolva an additional 2-4 wks by itself. by this time you should have returned to normal. go to the doc for blood work just to be sure.
    pins: glutes 23g 1.5inch
    if you do thigh too, get some 1inch pins or just cut 1 inch off a plastic cap from a pin, put it back on and use it to stop the 1.5inch from going in more than 1inch.
    you should have great results from this. 15lbs easy. i know the other guys opinions will vary from mine, so just do what you feel more comfortable with. we're all here to help. enjoy it my man.

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