Is a 20 Week Cutting Cycle Too Hard on the Body????

[Konsideration]

I've been really indecisive as to whether or not I want to bulk up or lose body fat first...and I think I've finally made up my mind to lean down first. To do this I was thinking about using EQ, Winny, Cytomel, and Clen...all spaced apart adequately over a 20 week period. Should I be worried about anything here? Is it too excessive?

I would estimate my body fat to be about 16%. I would like to get down to 9 or 10%.

Cytomel (weeks 1-6 and 15-20)

Week 1
Monday - 25mcg
Tuesday - 25mcg
Wednesday - 50mcg
Thursday - 50mcg
Friday - 75mcg
Saturday - 75mcg
Sunday - 100mcg

Week 2: 100mcg/day
Week 3: 100mcg/day
Week 4: 100mcg/day
Week 5: 100mcg/day

Week 6
Monday - 100mcg
Tuesday - 75mcg
Wednesday - 75mcg
Thursday - 50mcg
Friday - 50mcg
Saturday - 25mcg
Sunday - 25mcg

Clenbuterol (weeks 1-8 and 13-20)

Week 1
Monday - 60mcg
Tuesday - 60mcg
Wednesday - 60mcg
Thursday - 80mcg
Friday - 80mcg
Saturday - 80mcg
Sunday - 100mcg

Week 2
Monday - 100mcg
Tuesday - 100mcg
Wednesday - 120mcg
Thursday - 120mcg
Friday - 120mcg
Saturday - 120mcg
Sunday - 120mcg

Week 3: 120mcg/day + 50mg Benadryl/day
Week 4: 120mcg/day
Week 5: 120mcg/day
Week 6: 120mcg/day + 50mg Benadryl/day
Week 7: 120mcg/day

Week 8
Monday - 100mcg
Tuesday - 100mcg
Wednesday - 80mcg
Thursday - 80mcg
Friday - 60mcg
Saturday - 60mcg
Sunday - 60mcg

Equipose - Weeks 1 - 20: 250mg every Monday and Thursday
Winstrol - Weeks 1 - 6: 50mg/day (repeat weeks 15-20)

PCT at Week 22 for 6 weeks

Week/Nolvadex/HCG/Aromasin/Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mg/day 1000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mg/day 1000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mg/day 1000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20mg/day
5 20mgs/day 20mg/day
6 20mgs/day

[TractionIssues]

More important than this, what does your diet look like?

[Konsideration]

My BMR is roughly 1813 cal/day. When plugged into the Harris Benedict Equation, my caloric need rises to 3445/day. From what I've read, you are supposed to reduce your caloric intake by 500/day if you want to lose weight; however, it is my thought since I will have an increased anabolic demand, I would increase that number by 500/day.

I've seen that you can acheive great fat loss results without too much diet modification while on a T3 and Clen combo...but I plan on taking in a high protein, low fat, with moderatae carb intake to equade the roughly 4000/day caloric need.

[Konsideration]

Oh...and of course, this would be achieved through 6 meals/day to speed up metabolism.

[Phate]

bro, you could go down from 16% to 9% in 10 weeks with NO AAS whatsoever

[c-Z]

Wooooow

[jackjackson]

bro, you could go down from 16% to 9% in 10 weeks with NO AAS whatsoever

Agreed
all you need to do is really fix your diet and do some cardio and shorten your rest periods between sets.
I dropped to 7% without aas, you can to

[Konsideration]

This is true. I've lost 4 pounds in the last two weeks through strict dieting and cardio. I am an ectomorph through genetic predisposition, so being too heavy has never been too much of a threat for me. Yet I've never had the pleasure of a six pack and that is my goal for my 35th year of life. I figured working in some burners with a couple of AAS would help me acheive this. I've ran 5 or 6 cycles in the past and my body responds very well to AAS.

[Konsideration]

I appreciate and understand the importance of a good diet and thank those of you that have provided input to this regard. Along with diet, would this process not be facilitated quicker with the outline I have proposed above?

So does anyone have any input on the efficacy of the 20 week cutting cycle proposed? Is it too much?

[hankdiesel]

Too much indeed. No need to run any 20 week cycle. 12 is plenty and 16 should be the absolute max.

[seriousmass]

So does anyone have any input on the efficacy of the 20 week cutting cycle proposed? Is it too much?

Well, you can definitely recover from a 20 week cycle. Your PCT might have to be a tad stronger though. (yours looks perfect by the way - 6 weeks is ideal IMO) But other then that, if you can handle the extra couple of sides, it's fine.

Basically, your cycle is alright. You should be running some test throughout though. 300mg - 500mg each week, for all 20 weeks.

Also, I'd bump up that EQ dosage 500mg is a bit low (the bare minimum for decent results is 600mg).... I'd run 600 - 800mg each week.

Also, regarding the winstrol.. that's fine to run it the first 6 weeks... and if you want to backload the cycle with it... run it like this:

(weeks 1 - 20) Test-Enan @ 500mg EW
(weeks 1 - 20) EQ @ 600 - 800mg EW
(weeks 1 - 6) Winstrol @ 50mg ED
(weeks 16 - 22) Winstrol @ 50mg ED.

Begin PCT the day after you take your last dosage of winstrol.

Hope that cleared up the questions.

Peace.

[Konsideration]

I left the Test out because I don't want to draw too much attention at work (medical). Losing body fat with increased vascularity with moderate size gains (via the EQ and Winny) would be much more explainable through natural means (diet/exercise) than a serious increase in size which would be caused by the Test. Is my thinking correct?

[Konsideration]

And thank you SeriousMass for taking the time out to break it down for me. Much appreciated.

[Loaded61]

16% isnt all that bad in all honostly...you could lose a little weight before you cycle and just do a clean bulk

[seriousmass]

And thank you SeriousMass for taking the time out to break it down for me. Much appreciated.

No problem bro.

I left the Test out because I don't want to draw too much attention at work (medical). Losing body fat with increased vascularity with moderate size gains (via the EQ and Winny) would be much more explainable through natural means (diet/exercise) than a serious increase in size which would be caused by the Test. Is my thinking correct?

Well, you can run EQ on it's own. But that's definitely not a good reason to leave the test out. Look bro, test isn't going to just blow you up, outta no where. You are going to make slow gradual gains; tell your co-workers you're just bulking up for the summer.

Basically, I HIGHLY suggest incorperating the use of test into your cycle, especially since you're going to be using winstrol twice during the 20 weeks. Be smart bro, don't cut corners, you're going to be shutting down your natty-test production.. so you might as well use some artifical test, to ensure you don't get ED (erectile dysfunction) while on cycle. If you're terrified of gaining too much weight, then just run the test @ a low dosage, which will prevent libido problems, and prevent from muscle break down. I suggest 200 - 300mg each week.

Peace.

[Konsideration]

Great advice. Thanks again.

Out.

[ninesecz]

I would also not stick to that clen program. You will need to see how the Clen affects you. You kight take a 100mcg a day and want to jump out of your skin and be shaking like a heroin addict going through withdrwals! need to find a dose betwen the shakes and a 1/2degree rise in body temp! No more, No Less!

[HIITB$]

I would also not stick to that clen program. You will need to see how the Clen affects you. You kight take a 100mcg a day and want to jump out of your skin and be shaking like a heroin addict going through withdrwals! need to find a dose betwen the shakes and a 1/2degree rise in body temp! No more, No Less!

It just depends on the person but i tihnk with Clen you def have to feel it out. I have no problem doing 120 -200 when im ramping up.