Test E & T-bol Cycle

[RoidBoid]

Hi guys starting next week, any mods or ideas feel free to pitch in if you know what your talking about..

Ive heard people say 80mg tbol a day, but i was thinking 60mg is plenty, 80 would be overkill.... what are your thoughts??


tbol 60mg (or 80mg) daily
test e 500mg weekly
adex .25mg EOD
fincar .25mg daily
b5 1000mg daily
saw plemetto 1000mg daily
nizoral daily shampoo

PCT:
was going to hit the pct early, drop the adex and straigh in with clomid nolva a week after i finish maybe sooner, thoughts?

Clomid 100/100/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20

[Phate]

Hi guys starting next week, any mods or ideas feel free to pitch in if you know what your talking about..

Ive heard people say 80mg tbol a day, but i was thinking 60mg is plenty, 80 would be overkill.... what are your thoughts??


tbol 60mg (or 80mg) daily
test e 500mg weekly
adex .25mg EOD
fincar .25mg daily
b5 1000mg daily
saw plemetto 1000mg daily
nizoral daily shampoo

PCT:
was going to hit the pct early, drop the adex and straigh in with clomid nolva a week after i finish maybe sooner, thoughts?

Clomid 100/100/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20

well first off we need duration of each compound, and goals would be nice as well

[RoidBoid]

so sorry, i saved it in a document and didnt paste the full cycle out ......

:Goals are lean muscle gain, keep bf low.. low sides, basically lean bulk

tbol 60mg daily from ........6-8 weeks depending on mg daily
test e 500mg weekly..... 10 or 12 weeks
adex .25mg EOD
fincar .25mg daily
b5 1000mg daily
saw plemetto 1000mg daily
nizoral daily shampoo
Clomid 100/100/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20

[kdizzog]

I tried the same pct a week early, even though everyone here told me it was a waste, but also stretched it out to 5 weeks. This is my third week. I have not got my blood test done yet, but feel great so far, my best pct yet.

How long on the tbol? 6 weeks at 60mg a day? That should be good.

[Phate]

so sorry, i saved it in a document and didnt paste the full cycle out ......

:Goals are lean muscle gain, keep bf low.. low sides, basically lean bulk

tbol 60mg daily from ........6-8 weeks depending on mg daily
test e 500mg weekly..... 10 or 12 weeks
adex .25mg EOD
fincar .25mg daily
b5 1000mg daily
saw plemetto 1000mg daily
nizoral daily shampoo
Clomid 100/100/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20

doesn't look bad at all, thought about using anavar at all?

[seriousmass]

so sorry, i saved it in a document and didnt paste the full cycle out ......

:Goals are lean muscle gain, keep bf low.. low sides, basically lean bulk

tbol 60mg daily from ........6-8 weeks depending on mg daily
test e 500mg weekly..... 10 or 12 weeks

Sup bro,

I like the cycle, I'd change it a bit though.

(weeks 1 - 12) Test-E @ 500mg
(weeks 1 - 6) T-bol @ 60mg ED
(weeks 9 - 14) Anavar @ 80 - 100mg ED

Low sides / Mild-compounds / Great gains in 3 1/2 months... Definitely a good summer cycle.

[peachfuzz]

Sup bro,

I like the cycle, I'd change it a bit though.

(weeks 1 - 12) Test-E @ 500mg
(weeks 1 - 6) T-bol @ 60mg ED
(weeks 9 - 14) Anavar @ 80 - 100mg ED

Low sides / Mild-compounds / Great gains in 3 1/2 months... Definitely a good summer cycle.

I like this cycle. I like the idea of running an oral at the back of the cycle while waiting for the longer estered test to clear.

dont have to go that high on the var tho if your just trying to harden up.

[peachfuzz]

what cycle number is this and as always can you post up some stats?

[Phate]

Sup bro,

I like the cycle, I'd change it a bit though.

(weeks 1 - 12) Test-E @ 500mg
(weeks 1 - 6) T-bol @ 60mg ED
(weeks 9 - 14) Anavar @ 80 - 100mg ED

Low sides / Mild-compounds / Great gains in 3 1/2 months... Definitely a good summer cycle.

thats exactly what i was thinking^^^though the anavar dose is dependant on his goals, but either way, i like that cycle alot

what cycle number is this and as always can you post up some stats?

i was wondering this as well

[RoidBoid]

well problem is guys, previous cycle i got alopeica.... and ye i was a dick and i didnt know what i do today and didnt do a pct, i ran dbol,winni,var and i dont know wiether its because i didnt do a pct or because of a specific compound, so im bit wary to run any of them.

[seriousmass]

what cycle number is this and as always can you post up some stats?

That's him in the Avatar pic bro.

He's been on this board for ages.

[seriousmass]

well problem is guys, previous cycle i got alopeica.... and ye i was a dick and i didnt know what i do today and didnt do a pct, i ran dbol,winni,var and i dont know wiether its because i didnt do a pct or because of a specific compound, so im bit wary to run any of them.

hahaha... yah well it wasn't a great cycle. And the lack of the PCT was definitely the main problem bro. I would run the var... but are you set on a different compound??

[peachfuzz]

the dbol and winny are both brutal on hair line.

anavar causes me NO problems at all.

are you prone to estro sides?

[RoidBoid]

been gear free for last 8months, working my bollox off seeing what i can gain, ive got the b5 and saw palmetto coming in the post this week, start jabbing next week... which im not looking forward to btw lol.

so back to what we was saying, i got alopeica from one of the compounds, now im trying to lower the dht conversion as much as possible to try and avoid it from re-occurring, when would u hit pct..?

[seriousmass]

well problem is guys, previous cycle i got alopeica....

Worst steroids for hair-loss IMO:

- Winstrol
- D-bol
- Sustanon

Best steroids for avoiding hair-loss IMO:

- T-bol
- Anavar
- Deca

[RoidBoid]

had have previous history of very slight gyno, im one of these allergic person, god im even allergic to hospital bands...lol

i didnt know what to blame it on becuase of the use of different compounds or the lack of pct.... hmmm

[peachfuzz]

been gear free for last 8months, working my bollox off seeing what i can gain, ive got the b5 and saw palmetto coming in the post this week, start jabbing next week... which im not looking forward to btw lol.

so back to what we was saying, i got alopeica from one of the compounds, now im trying to lower the dht conversion as much as possible to try and avoid it from re-occurring, when would u hit pct..?

post cycle would start week 15. dont like the idea of starting a week early especially if your gonna run an oral until the end. wouldnt hurt anything except your wallet tho so its your call.

im sure you know if your gonna lose it you are gonna lose it. all you can do is delay the inevitable. but like i said you went from one of the worst cycles for hair loss possible to a much much milder one. with the addition of nizoral and a pct you should have little to no issues with this one.

[seriousmass]

post cycle would start week 15.

Good call.

[RoidBoid]

well i doubt im MBP prone, alopeica is not related to MBP, im just cant get it again.. trying my best to avoid the situation,


test e, was gonna go for 10 weeks, isit worth bumping to 12 then.... and PCT week 15? .. is this if i run the VAR to 14?

[seriousmass]

well i doubt im MBP prone, alopeica is not related to MBP, im just cant get it again.. trying my best to avoid the situation,


test e, was gonna go for 10 weeks, isit worth bumping to 12 then.... and PCT week 15? .. is this if i run the VAR to 14?

lol... bro... look at the cycle I wrote you out. It makes it VERY clear.

Yes, I would bump it to 12 weeks. Test-E takes forever to kick-in, you'll still see quality gains in weeks 10 - 12.

Yes, the var would be ran right until the beginning of the PCT.

[seriousmass]

I can definitely sympathize with you... my girlfriend is a model... and she was really stressed at one point / trying to crash diet, etc... well, she actually developed alopecia areata... and had to get corteson-injections into her scalp to make the hair regrow completely.

[peachfuzz]

well i doubt im MBP prone, alopeica is not related to MBP

care to elaborate on this?

[RoidBoid]

care to elaborate on this?

MBP has no link to alopeica, alopecia can run in family generations (mine hasn't) or can be down to MANY other implications i.e stress, diet etc...

If one gets alopeica, it doesn't mean he/she is MBP prone, i still have full head thick black hair, no receding atall...BUT i suffered alopeica

[peachfuzz]

can you tell me what type of alopecia you suffered?

[RoidBoid]

alopeica areata ... started 2 small 1p coin size, lost 3/4 of the hair on back of my head... nizoral last 3months all back and thick again now

[peachfuzz]

i guess

[RoidBoid]

u guess ..... ?

[peachfuzz]

your relating it to the cycle which usually exacurbates androgenic alopeica. however, you are saying it is alopeica areata which is much less common. tho the symptoms you present would point you in that direction so....i guess

[RoidBoid]

thats exactly what i was thinking^^^though the anavar dose is dependant on his goals, but either way, i like that cycle alot



i was wondering this as well

hmmm, starting pct week 15? not 14 when the test e drops off?

[RoidBoid]

bump

[Big]

hmmm, starting pct week 15? not 14 when the test e drops off?

well if you're running test e for 12 weeks, pct would start 2 weeks after the last shot, so week 15.