Urgent help required

[kewkewkrazy]

Ok , did 300mg prop for 12 weeks , did nolva and tribulus for pct for 5 weeks it not help nolva only stops estrogen filling sites doesnt help kick start test. Anyway 8 weeks on im shut down and my testicles are tiny.

SHould i run HCG @ 250IU for about 20 days with nolvadex? I couldnt do thsi before as i couldnt get HCG but i can get it now.

Thanks

[lovbyts]

Why no both? If you can get the HCG I would defiantly run that but if you can get both then better yet.

[kewkewkrazy]

I can get HCG and Nolvadex yes. Im scared about it suprresing me even further if my test is on its way back now and suppressing it with hcg and wheni get off hcg im back to where im started is that what will happen??

I plan on running the smallest dose possible with the hcg to try and avoid suppresion from it so it just gives me a boost for my test levels to rebound quickly.

[ninesecz]

Read the studies, Nolvadex is known to up test production 150% !!

[lovbyts]

As regards HCG´s use of Post-Cycle-Therapy (PCT), smaller and more frequent doses after a cycle of AAS would give the best results with the least amount of side effects. A dose of 250iu to 500iu everyday (ed) for 2 to 3 weeks is plenty and should very little from person to person (3). The Physicians Desk Reference recommends 500iu/day, as did the late, great, Dan Duchaine. The smaller doses are sufficient enough to begin reversal of testicular atrophy and used in conjunction with nolvade, will help the already present problem of recovery without raising the levels of estrogen to high and increasing the risk of gynecomastia in the user. Lower doses of 250iu to 500iu also avoid the further risk of down regulating LH receptors in the testes. The old saying more is better definitely does not apply to the use of HCG. You don´t want to finish PCT after using too much HCG only to find out your back at the beginning again. Your best bet is to start at 250iu or 500iu ed for 5 or 6 days, and if you don´t notice anything happening (nuts dropping and getting bigger) up the dose slightly. Small doses like 500iu two days a week isn´t going to cut it like some people think. The only thing small doses of HCG ay be useful (sublingually) for is reducing symptoms of benign prostatic hyperplasia.

Copied from the guide.

[kewkewkrazy]

nolva hasnt helped for me. Ok ill run hcg @ 250iu a day until it runs out , the lower the dose the better chance it wont be suppresive and ill run nolva with it.

THanks

[CptAmericaX]

Read the studies, Nolvadex is known to up test production 150% !!

^^^ definatly what mg did you run nolvadex you run 40 mg ed for 2 weeks and 2 more weeks at 20 mg everyday I feal it working mayb someone sold you asprin

[kewkewkrazy]

IT was pharma nolva i still have some. SHould i run that by itself then? Im scared HCG will just shut me down again once im off it is that true?

[Twist]

IT was pharma nolva i still have some. SHould i run that by itself then? Im scared HCG will just shut me down again once im off it is that true?

I don't get it... hcg does not shut you down it does the opposite...

[kewkewkrazy]

IT supposedly shuts down your hpta?

[kewkewkrazy]

BUt tehre is a HCG diet which people use low dose HCG so it musnt shut you down if the dose isnt excessive?