I hate enanthate esters!!

[john1181]

This primobolan is messed up fellaz....i used to hate test enanthate it was sore and stiff at the injection site hurt for days like a hoe..but this primobolan is messed up!!!anywhere i shoot it gets a massive pump and it gets solid hurts like heeeeeellll cant even touch it cant move it cant tense nothing!!!im shooting 8amps /week...i tried shooting 1 amp in 4different spots to decrease the volume of the oil in the injection site but nothing..it gets sore,pumped,hard,and kills for at least 5days!!!anyone ever been through this on primobolan before???dont tell me to man up cause ive been injecting ever since i was 21 im 28now..im not afraid of no needle...what can i do about this..anyone?help..the pain is serious

[c-Z]

Man Up.

[john1181]

By the way, the pain and pump/stiffnes,hardness comes the next day

[T-MOS]

could be your source....
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cut it with sterile oil or get a better source.
I have never had pain from a test e shot

[Sauced_Up]

8 amps???? so your shooting 8ccs a week???

Isnt that a bit much??

[john1181]

Lmao, man up? I need to send u an amp of this shyt then u tell me to man up!im on week 4of this stuff and im only trying to find a way to decrease the pain cause the soreness/stiffnes doesnt even allow me to work out ya dig??

[john1181]

My source is the pharmacy..it comes in boxes and papers and taxes and everything..doesnt get any better than that

[john1181]

800mg/week of primo is a lot? I hear everyone saying how u need a lot in order to make it worth the cycle on primo..i hear 600mg/week is borderline...ive done many cycles before with harsher stuff...so 800 is fine i think although it still hasnt fully kicked in im on week 4....also each amp says 1ml but its 1.25mls so 8 amps a week is 1000mg/week..this stuff better be the best stuff i ever done because for the pain it aint worth it so far.

[T-MOS]

My source is the pharmacy..it comes in boxes and papers and taxes and everything..doesnt get any better than that

obviously IT DOES get better.....lolol maybe you are allergic to the oil used or something

If its from a script then talk to your doc and see if they will switch you to something else

or try cutting it with B12 or sterile oil

OR MAN UP.......lolol

[c-Z]

obviously IT DOES get better.....lolol maybe you are allergic to the oil used or something

If its from a script then talk to your doc and see if they will switch you to something else

or try cutting it with B12 or sterile oil

OR MAN UP.......lolol

HAHAHA im j/k bro...... chill out....

[john1181]

I should have just got some tren ace but i need my manhood.

[john1181]

Lol aww fellaz comon..lol, how am i supposed to man up when i cant even sit down cant move my shoulders lmao..ill try that with the b12...do you think bro that also adding an anti imflamitory shot and mix it with the primo would be better?

[T-MOS]

never tried an anti inflam, so I cant' really comment on that.

[john1181]

Only one way to find out!!! B12,primobolan and anti imflamitory shot on thursday!!! Ill keep ya posted

[john1181]

What have you shot the b12 with bro? Winstrol ?

[john1181]

Did it work good?what were ur experiances from that?

[T-MOS]

What have you shot the b12 with bro? Winstrol ?

yea, winny and prop.

still hurts, but less

[john1181]

I guess everyone is different then..for me prop is the best..no pain nothing!i inject it in my triceps and shoulders i love it! (testovis)

[ninesecz]

I would take it back to the store tell them the shit is tearing the ass out of ya and you want a refund!! LOL get something a little less harsh on yourself bro! i know it no pain no gain but it sounds like it is a litle too much pain for you!!

[The Deuce]

What would you be getting Primo prescribed for?? I thought they only prescribed that for wasting diseases like AIDS and the like.. my bad if you suffer from that... but i am j/c??

I love Primo and yes IMO anything less than 600 per week with it is a waste... I heard of peeps in upwards of 1400mgs per week to get great results.. PRIMO is pretty much my fave compound other than Test or Tren...

As far as the PAIN... I would say screw the B12 and go with cutting it with a sterile oil... either Grapeseed or cottonseed.. I tried the whole B12 thing and it never helped me.. I had to match the oil in order to dull the pain.. meaning if it was created with EO i would cut it with EO with the same amount that I was shooting.. IE.. 1ml of PROP/ 1 ml of EO... same with CSO or GSO... so if you are shooting 8mls per week of Primo.. jump it up to 16ml's consisting of a matching sterile oil...

ARE YOU RUNNING PRIMO BY ITSELF or with TEST?? Because sometimes mixing the compounds together helps ease the pain of the injection also.. for instance.. if I was hurting from a Test compound.. mixing it with whatever else I was using in my cycle would dull the pain from the painful compound... ya know??

I think your body can process in excess of 50ml's of oil per week scattered throughout your body... rotating inject sites obviously... glute/glute, upper quad/upper quad, lower quad/lower quad, delt/delt, bi/bi, tri/tri, pec/pec, lat/lat, trap/trap, and if you absolutely have to which I WOULD NEVER DO calf/calf....

There are plenty of spots to pin.. so either cut it.. rotate more often.. man up.. OR JUST STOP INJECTING.. Pretty much your only options...

[powerliftmike]

If its from a script then talk to your doc and see if they will switch you to something else

I think he is just meaning some third world country or something. Primo isnt FDA approved and I cant see any doctor writing a script for 800mg/wk anyway..

which opens the question of your source being crap back up. or the allergic reaction to the oil, BA, or whatever else might be in there. best thing to do is let a buddy take a shot and see his reaction.

[powerliftmike]

glute/glute, upper quad/upper quad, lower quad/lower quad, delt/delt, bi/bi, tri/tri, pec/pec, lat/lat, trap/trap, and if you absolutely have to which I WOULD NEVER DO calf/calf....

Personally I would take calves over biceps any day. But thats just me.

[Twist]

x2 calves are not bad
but to op when I had some shit when I first started using that hurt like hell (some shit that I shouldn't even have been injecting into a dead animal) I would do lats after back day. seems to not bother me as much. I found that unless I reached my arms up I didn't even feel it.

[Karo]

I'd be willing to bet that you're allergic to it. I had the same thing happen. When using this one brand, anywhere i'd shoot it I would be in severe pain for 6 days after the shot. If I shot it in my thigh I couldn't even bend my leg. I ordered some new stuff from a different lab (bd to be exact) and it was smooth as butter. I couldn't even tell where I didi the injection the second day.
A friend of mine took the stuff that I was having the problem with and it didn't effect him at all.

[john1181]

what would you be getting primo prescribed for?? I thought they only prescribed that for wasting diseases like aids and the like.. My bad if you suffer from that... But i am j/c??

I love primo and yes imo anything less than 600 per week with it is a waste... I heard of peeps in upwards of 1400mgs per week to get great results.. Primo is pretty much my fave compound other than test or tren...

As far as the pain... I would say screw the b12 and go with cutting it with a sterile oil... Either grapeseed or cottonseed.. I tried the whole b12 thing and it never helped me.. I had to match the oil in order to dull the pain.. Meaning if it was created with eo i would cut it with eo with the same amount that i was shooting.. Ie.. 1ml of prop/ 1 ml of eo... Same with cso or gso... So if you are shooting 8mls per week of primo.. Jump it up to 16ml's consisting of a matching sterile oil...

Are you running primo by itself or with test?? Because sometimes mixing the compounds together helps ease the pain of the injection also.. For instance.. If i was hurting from a test compound.. Mixing it with whatever else i was using in my cycle would dull the pain from the painful compound... Ya know??

I think your body can process in excess of 50ml's of oil per week scattered throughout your body... Rotating inject sites obviously... Glute/glute, upper quad/upper quad, lower quad/lower quad, delt/delt, bi/bi, tri/tri, pec/pec, lat/lat, trap/trap, and if you absolutely have to which i would never do calf/calf....

There are plenty of spots to pin.. So either cut it.. Rotate more often.. Man up.. Or just stop injecting.. Pretty much your only options...

bro im not getting it prescribed...im in europe i dont need perscription i fly to 3rd contries turkey etc....good idea on mixing the prop with the primo..im gonna try that also...so u like primo?i hope 800mg/week well, actually 1000mg/week will do a great job..was the primo u used from sheiring?didnt it criple the injection site especially if u work it out...like i shot in glutes 3days ago and then did squats at night and now it hurts to even sit down i cant even bend over..not tomention shoulders..the good thing is that wherever i shoot it it makes the muscle bigger for those 3-5days so i like hitting up the rear delt makes it huge and out of proportion..tomorrow im gonna mix it with the prop and shoot up delts and triceps..

[john1181]

i think he is just meaning some third world country or something. Primo isnt fda approved and i cant see any doctor writing a script for 800mg/wk anyway..

Which opens the question of your source being crap back up. Or the allergic reaction to the oil, ba, or whatever else might be in there. Best thing to do is let a buddy take a shot and see his reaction.

bro, i dont think they sell fake meds at the pharmacies...im guessing its the enanthate thats doing this because even from testoviron i would get this pain but not like this..so its probably the oil or the enanthate ester

[ninesecz]

bro, i dont think they sell fake meds at the pharmacies...im guessing its the enanthate thats doing this because even from testoviron i would get this pain but not like this..so its probably the oil or the enanthate ester

Can u switch to something else that may be more suited to fit your perdicamnet?

[chuckt12345]

more like allergic reaction to something in the product. Enanthate itself should not cause any pain.

[john1181]

more like allergic reaction to something in the product. Enanthate itself should not cause any pain.

you kiddin me bro??? the whole purpose of long esters is that the oil stays in the injection site for days and slowly releases the hormone..thats why it gets all stiff and only hurts for about 4days...im guessing here dont all jump on me again lol ive seen it b4 everyone picking on the little guy(me)!

[chuckt12345]

you kiddin me bro??? the whole purpose of long esters is that the oil stays in the injection site for days and slowly releases the hormone..thats why it gets all stiff and only hurts for about 4days...im guessing here dont all jump on me again lol ive seen it b4 everyone picking on the little guy(me)!

not really sure what your saying here?
my understanding is the ester is attached with the hormone (test) not the oil and should not make a diffrence in pain if its a prop ester, cyp or enth etc.
i was sayin you may be allergic to the specific oils used in enthate not the actual ester

[Big]

you kiddin me bro??? the whole purpose of long esters is that the oil stays in the injection site for days and slowly releases the hormone..thats why it gets all stiff and only hurts for about 4days...im guessing here dont all jump on me again lol ive seen it b4 everyone picking on the little guy(me)!

so you think the ester makes the oil stay in the injection site longer?

[Hazard]

could be the ammount of BA they used...... i had some wicked test at the end of my cycle..... did the same thing you described. injection site was so painful and swollen LOL.... it made my side delts stickout sooooooooo much......

~Haz~

[john1181]

so you think the ester makes the oil stay in the injection site longer?

exactly...cause after all its slowely released into the body right?so im guessing small amounts of the hormone are released into the blood stream so they can saturate the specific receptor....i get this stifness and pain only with long esters...short esters i can shoot anywhere like a joke.....maybe its the oil, maybe itsnot in my case.....i guess it might be the oil...have they changed the oil used in primobolan in the last 9years? i remember back int the day i did a couplle primobolans and dont remember them hurting...the stuff i have now cripples....i wonder how winstrol feels

[john1181]

maybe esters hang on to the muscle fibers before the ester is deactivated and the hormone released....damn i need to stop smokin Edited these days

[Big]

I've got to say I love some of your theories. The leg extentions increasing your libido was classic, the long estered test during pct was another of my favorites. In any event, the ester isn't making the compound stay in the muscle injected and release over many days, it doesn't work that way. but props for being a thinker.

[peteroy01]

sounds like the BA. maybe whoever was pouring in the BA was smoking "edited" and couldnt remember if he did it the 1st time and added more. J/K
can remember the method of cutting the BA. something bout heating up the vial and putting a pin in the top. if they come in amps order sterile vials and put them n the vial and do the pin thing in the top. i dont know what im talking about

[john1181]

lol..thanks...i guess it doesnt really matter tho...i mean the job gets done..primo is ripping me up etc etc...leg extentions give me better circulation down there and restandol was something i had terribly wrong....i dont know a lot about steroids...im just happy i have the body i always wanted and hapy that everything is always in place....

[john1181]

btw what i do now to get rid of any pain is mix each ml of primo with an ml of prop...so thing is i up the test twice a week to 200mg/day....im thinking about just shooting 200mg of prop every other day in order to stay in the 100mg/day dose for the prop....would using 200mg/test prop for 2 days out of the week be benificial to growth along with 100mg prop the other days ?? or would the certain peak and then lowering of the dose be more on the negative side?