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    Question Strenght, Inner Organs Grow, Skeleton, Tendons... Help!

    I am about to start my cycle:

    Stats: 6'1.5, 200pd, 10bf, 36yo, 15y work-out experience

    Week 1-12
    Test e 500 mg EW (2 shots)

    So a very simple bulking cycle.
    My questions are:

    1. How much strenght will I get and after how long?
    2. What about tendons and related sheath? Do they grow as well in order to work properly with the muscles?
    3. What about inner organs? I read that is some individuals they start to grow as well, while in others this doesn't happen (large and small intestine, stomach, liver, heart).
    4. Same thing for the skeleton, specifically feet, elbows and lower jaws.

    I found many contradictory reports on the above mentioned topics, therefore I am confused.

    May anyone report is knowledge experience?
    Thanks a lot indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    I am about to start my cycle:

    Stats: 6'1.5, 200pd, 10bf, 36yo, 15y work-out experience

    Week 1-12
    Test e 500 mg EW (2 shots)

    So a very simple bulking cycle.
    My questions are:

    1. How much strenght will I get and after how long?
    2. What about tendons and related sheath? Do they grow as well in order to work properly with the muscles?
    3. What about inner organs? I read that is some individuals they start to grow as well, while in others this doesn't happen (large and small intestine, stomach, liver, heart).
    4. Same thing for the skeleton, specifically feet, elbows and lower jaws.

    I found many contradictory reports on the above mentioned topics, therefore I am confused.

    May anyone report is knowledge experience?
    Thanks a lot indeed.
    1. thats completely training related
    2. i dont know with certainty.
    3. DEFINITELY NOT. thats high dosage hgh effect.
    4. bone mineral density increases. but like your feet wont grow a shoe size, your bones will just get stronger to accomodate the increased demands.

    in short, youll find the body adapts to meet the new challenges. how you fit organ growth into the equation is interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    I am about to start my cycle:

    Stats: 6'1.5, 200pd, 10bf, 36yo, 15y work-out experience

    Week 1-12
    Test e 500 mg EW (2 shots)

    So a very simple bulking cycle.
    My questions are:

    1. How much strenght will I get and after how long? Impossible to say. How long is a piece of string?
    2. What about tendons and related sheath? Do they grow as well in order to work properly with the muscles? Your tendons and ligaments should strengthen with your msucular strength increasing. I do know of friends that have increased there strength so much (on cycle) is has caused tendon and ligament problems though.
    3. What about inner organs? I read that is some individuals they start to grow as well, while in others this doesn't happen (large and small intestine, stomach, liver, heart). GH has the ability to grow most (if not all) tissues as it is not a site specific compound. IGF-1 may also be responsible for growth of the "gut". But I dont know a lot on this subject.
    4. Same thing for the skeleton, specifically feet, elbows and lower jaws. GH related.
    I found many contradictory reports on the above mentioned topics, therefore I am confused.

    May anyone report is knowledge experience?
    Thanks a lot indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
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    ^^x2

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWIFTO
    How long is a piece of string?
    haha. i like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
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    Don't take me wrong, you were kind to reply to my posts, even because you had no obligation to, except your will to help me out and for this I thank you but I must notice the answer to the question number one is not only debatable (and I am going to explain why) but also not analogous to the subsequent three.

    1. How much strenght will I get and after how long? Impossible to say. How long is a piece of string?

    In the science field related to medicine and correlated topics, scientists rely on applied statistics and in some cases descriptive statistics. So, if they do it why should we not? In this case, surely formulating my question in the wrong way, I expected an answer in percentage and not a word like "impossible" connected with a good dose of sarcasm, which in any case I liked.
    You know, being a mathematician, it is impossible to me to write what you have written simply because a "piece of string" is a simple object and CANNOT be length endless. There must be a beginning and an end which give to the object a position in the concept of space. The only thing you could be unaware of is its location.
    Writing back regarding my topic, the question number one, if prior beginning one's aas he was able to squat 200lbs and after one month he can reach up 300lbs, his new strength is equal to 50% increase (speaking about related muscles and specific exercise). If we take notice of the other important muscles in one's body and basic exercises and use a simple formula, we can suitably and profitably figure out an answer to my simple but outwardly wrong question.
    So, after this long speech, I cannot believe you all have no idea of the strength percentage one can achieve after one/two/three months of test e only, taking for granted diet and work-out are in order, can't you?

    I apologize for my English, after all is not my mother tongue language.

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    Your individual genetics is the unknown factor.

    There are guys that gain weight/mass but little to no strenght. There are guys that have such crappy genetics that no matter what they do they respond very poorly to any AAS.

    You individual genetics is the pre-determining factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Don't take me wrong, you were kind to reply to my posts, even because you had no obligation to, except your will to help me out and for this I thank you but I must notice the answer to the question number one is not only debatable (and I am going to explain why) but also not analogous to the subsequent three.

    1. How much strenght will I get and after how long? Impossible to say. How long is a piece of string?

    In the science field related to medicine and correlated topics, scientists rely on applied statistics and in some cases descriptive statistics. So, if they do it why should we not? In this case, surely formulating my question in the wrong way, I expected an answer in percentage and not a word like "impossible" connected with a good dose of sarcasm, which in any case I liked.
    You know, being a mathematician, it is impossible to me to write what you have written simply because a "piece of string" is a simple object and CANNOT be length endless. There must be a beginning and an end which give to the object a position in the concept of space. The only thing you could be unaware of is its location.
    Writing back regarding my topic, the question number one, if prior beginning one's aas he was able to squat 200lbs and after one month he can reach up 300lbs, his new strength is equal to 50% increase (speaking about related muscles and specific exercise). If we take notice of the other important muscles in one's body and basic exercises and use a simple formula, we can suitably and profitably figure out an answer to my simple but outwardly wrong question.
    So, after this long speech, I cannot believe you all have no idea of the strength percentage one can achieve after one/two/three months of test e only, taking for granted diet and work-out are in order, can't you?

    I apologize for my English, after all is not my mother tongue language.
    What he was getting at, is some people's strength shoot through the roof, while others get a minimal increase in strength. Just as some people gain 30+ lbs of muscle on a cycle, and others gain very little or lose weight. It is all about genetics, diet, and the amount and type of gear used. No single person is the same; therefore, it is impossible to put a percentage on something that can't be accurately predicted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jfew44 View Post
    What he was getting at, is some people's strength shoot through the roof, while others get a minimal increase in strength. Just as some people gain 30+ lbs of muscle on a cycle, and others gain very little or lose weight. It is all about genetics, diet, and the amount and type of gear used. No single person is the same; therefore, it is impossible to put a percentage on something that can't be accurately predicted.
    Sorry but I disagree!
    Statistics can be made on anything, science teaches.
    Thanks for sharing anyway.

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