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    Start up info 1st cycle

    Hey guys,

    Still working on finding out first hand knowledge on my potential first cycle and I still have a lot research to do! Just a few questions that need some answers so I can continue my search for info. I'll give you all a bit of a run down any comments and/or advise is welcomed and appreciated!

    First cycle:
    test e 500mg x week, week 1-10 or 12 havent decided- suggestions?
    dbol 50mg x ED, week 1-4
    winny tabs 4-10 or 12
    Pct:
    nolva weeks: 13-16 or 15-18 x 40/20/20/20
    clomid "": 100/50/50/50

    Questions:
    1) how many of you have experienced shrinkage from a cycle like this? Reason being I am hopefully not wanting to use HCG due to the amount of injections reguired! Unless available in tabs?

    2) arimidex at 0.5mg ED if signs of gyno - enough?

    3) this is all planning a bulking cycle. If I choose to follow with a cutting cycle aided with some gear I was looking at a similar cycle minus the dbol and adding some EQ at around 400-600mg a week (suggestions?). Questions regarding this include:

    1) can I shoot test E and Eq in one shot?
    2) can I take the required amount of eq in 2 doses a week (I hate needles - pass out style)? I think thats a no go from my reading but here's hoping!

    Finaly with a few notes on myself to give you all a good idea of me and some history:

    Stats:
    5'6", approx 160lbs, 15% bf, age 24

    I've been on vacay for the past 4 months and the stats provided are my current stats. My old stats and the ones I intend to be at before I juice are bf% 12-14, 172-175lbs.
    I plan on a crazy cutting diet for 2 or so months when I get home which is asap followed by a bulking without any gear for 2-4 months -solid diet as well.

    Sorry for the novel people but I really appreciate the help and still plan on a tonof research. I have also looked through the profiles and read about some compounds that sound like miricles eg:teen - ideas for a first timer?

    Ps: maybe not so much a ps but I have used to cycles in the past long story short I was stupid, a buddy gave and showed me how to use each cycle and as a stupid guy trying to get jack and hunt some ladies I don't know what I took. All I can say is neither time did I have any noticable sides, both were tabs for 3-4 weeks starting and 2 injections at I think 1ml 2x week maybe two but prolly the latter, this was run for 10 weeks and was approx 1 yr ago, no pct was run.

    I wanna do it right this time everyone give me honest, cruel, hard, real advise! I can't be blamed for being young and stupid (to much anyway) I'd like to do it right this time!

    Thanks everyone




    Questions:
    Does this sound good for 1st cycle?

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    No need for all that gear. You can get as good results just from test. You can all the steroids you want, you gains will depend on your diet, training and recovery. Save the money you would have spent on the orals and use it to buy better/more food.

    Disclaimer-BG is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way encourage nor condone the use of any illegal substances.
    The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only.


    Everything was impossible until somebody did it!

    I've got 99 problems......but my squat/dead ain't one !!

    It doesnt matter how good looking she is, some where, some one is tired of her shit.

    Light travels faster then sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

    Great place to start researching ! http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html


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    I had a feeling that might be thecasehowever I have incredable fortitude and can't pull off a wild diet (if you have suggestions, I'k all ears). As for the gear, lets just say I'm in a wonderland of juice and price isn't the
    biggest issue - knowledge is!

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    You have a lot of questions .

    Simple is best approach for first cycle . I believe BG is right on the money .

    Depending on future results then you can plan future cycle's

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfunk View Post
    I had a feeling that might be thecasehowever I have incredable fortitude and can't pull off a wild diet (if you have suggestions, I'k all ears). As for the gear, lets just say I'm in a wonderland of juice and price isn't the
    biggest issue - knowledge is!
    Honestly though the juice isnt going to make a difference. Go to the diet forum and read up and find the places your diet needs improvement. As far as moneys concerned, whats does that have to do with anything?? If a person has alot of money they should run more gear and destroy their health more then a normal person?? That makes no sense to me. Test only will give you what you need especially since you admitted you dont have a good diet. More chemicals wont help you, researching how to eat properly will.

    Disclaimer-BG is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way encourage nor condone the use of any illegal substances.
    The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only.


    Everything was impossible until somebody did it!

    I've got 99 problems......but my squat/dead ain't one !!

    It doesnt matter how good looking she is, some where, some one is tired of her shit.

    Light travels faster then sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

    Great place to start researching ! http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html


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    take what he says and DOOO IT. You need a proper diet... to much stuff for a beginners cycle in there.

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    bang on guys,

    I have no prob admitting I need work on my diet and prolly my excersize routine! Hands down your all right! However as I said, I haves lot of research to do, I'm traveling so I can buy over the counter cheap as I don't know about u guys but other than that sources for me are more than that and stupid expensive (what I said I was on before cost me 600$ cad) stupid!

    I can get stuff if I research and it ends up in the garbage what's the harm?
    what's the harm in having the best, most hardcore stack possible if in 6 months or 1 yr July diet and excersize are on point? ( this shit dosen't expire in a week)!

    And just as an auxilery I am continuing research on all fronts but as I am sure u all knoelw written reseached material is often different that first hand reported info; with that being said info on my stats and anything else would b appreciated!

    I also want to mention that my lack of running multipule threads over different fourms and lack of research also has to do with the fact I'm doing this on my iPod touch on a shitty highjacked wireless conection in a third world country! I assure you my research will increase once home.

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    haHA IM IN NO POSITION TO TALK BUT THAT BG COMMENTED ON MY THREAD THANKS GUY KNOWS WHAT HES TALIKING ABOUT IM IN SAME BOAT AS YOU PHUNK I WAS SET STRIAGHT LOL

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    If you could get yourself to 172lbs again with 12-14% bf,(it shouldn't be too hard since you were already there) then you'll be set for your first cycle in case you desire more,we all do.
    Test E 500mg a week for 12 weeks
    D-bol 30mg/day weeks 1-4
    Save the winny for the next one, trust me there will be a next one. PCT looks fine, you will experience shrinkage of the boys to about 50%. The money you save on winny should be spent on HCG trust me. A-dex should be fine at .5mg EOD for the duration of cycle. And yes you could shoot the test and eq in your next on together on the same pin. One last advice make sure you have everything on hand before you start injecting yourself and that includes PCT, diet, and proper workout.

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